Reginald Ferguson [00:00:01]: The fashion geeks are hosted and powered by Blueberry. Tiff [00:00:04]: That's Blueberry, b l u b r r y. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:07]: Thinking of launching a podcast? Want your episodes to be deployed smoothly? Go to blueberry.com, type in the word fashion, and get a deal on us. Tiff [00:00:15]: Just put in the word fashion. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:17]: Blueberry, Always hostfly. Hello. I'm Reg. Tiff [00:00:22]: And I'm Tiff. And we're the fashion geeks. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:24]: Trying to make New York. Tiff [00:00:25]: And the world. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:26]: Well, New York is The world Tiff [00:00:27]: A little flyer, 1 outfit Reginald Ferguson [00:00:28]: And podcast. Tiff [00:00:29]: At a time. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:34]: Back together again. Tiff [00:00:36]: Again and again and again. Oh, wait. I did that already. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:38]: That's alright. Well, clearly clearly, this is the theme. I like that because hopefully that means I'll see you very soon to do a few more apps. So, yes, please. Continue continue those words. Well, I Tiff [00:00:52]: do have some travel in the future. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:53]: Oh, no. Stop. Tiff [00:00:56]: But I'm making money, so that'll Reginald Ferguson [00:00:57]: be recorded. Absolutely. Absolutely. Tiff [00:01:00]: Got to make the dollar. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:01]: Welcome, everybody. I am fashion geek number 1 Reg Ferguson of New York fashion geek to my side, ride or die. Tiff [00:01:08]: Fashion geek number 2, Tiffany Minotell Schreiber here at your service. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:12]: Yeah. Tiff not traveling. Decided to make a trip to the studio. Tiff [00:01:17]: Yes. It was a long trip. 1 hour. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:22]: The city is big. It's 5 boroughs. Tiff [00:01:23]: Yeah. And when it rains, nobody knows how to drive. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:26]: I've always been told that. Tiff [00:01:27]: It's crazy. But it's been raining the entire month, so they should know it by now. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:32]: I took the train. Tiff [00:01:34]: I usually take the train. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:35]: Yes. I know. I thought you were gonna take the train today. I was a little surprised. Tiff [00:01:37]: Yeah. I had to be somewhere So, anyway, we are back doing our lovely podcast to support your awesome business. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:46]: Oh, thank you so much. What is Tiff [00:01:47]: your business, Reg, for those who are just joining us? Reginald Ferguson [00:01:49]: I'm a men's fashion consultant. Tiff [00:01:51]: Yeah. You are. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:52]: I help men improve their look. We go from closet inventory to personal shopping and everything in between. Consider me a personal trainer for fashion. Tiff [00:02:02]: Love that line. You know, I had to have you say it because We we haven't said it in a while. So haven't Reginald Ferguson [00:02:06]: said it in a while. Tiff [00:02:06]: Remind the listeners of, the purpose of why we're here. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:09]: And look at my look at my new workout outfit. Tiff [00:02:12]: Oh, yeah. Your workout that 3 piece number sure is nice. Love the workout towel in, in your pocket there. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:21]: Hey. Oh, yeah. You know? I'm about to I have an appointment right after this. So Tiff [00:02:26]: You gotta You gotta look good to do good. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:29]: Absolutely. So because when you look good, you play good. Tiff [00:02:33]: That's right. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:34]: AI. Allen Iverson. Tiff [00:02:36]: Oh, I was like AI Reginald Ferguson [00:02:38]: and artificial intelligence. I know. I realized that. I'm so sorry. Tiff [00:02:40]: You're just totally throwing it out there. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:42]: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Tiff [00:02:44]: So, since we've not been together for a while, I'm assuming you've been, pretty busy, you know, Doing stuff? Reginald Ferguson [00:02:52]: Yeah. Just constantly working on the biz. Actually, I'm about to undergo, like, a email system change and switch platforms to Forms to Office 365. Tiff [00:03:02]: And Oh, I had a little taste of that in one of my jobs. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:05]: Oh, and then also getting ready to really Step Up, Level Up, and do the CRE thing for the business. CRE. Yeah. Software. CRM. Sorry. CRM. Tiff [00:03:19]: CRM software. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:21]: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tiff [00:03:22]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:22]: Yeah. Alright. So customer database, everything. Tiff [00:03:25]: Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Gotcha. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:28]: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tiff [00:03:29]: The, the anachronyms are throwing me today, apparently. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:32]: Yes. The the anachronyms. Really? Okay. Wow. Are those the dangerous acronyms? Tiff [00:03:39]: Oh, did I say an acronym? Yes. You said Acronyms. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:42]: Once, They're creeping. Tiff [00:03:44]: Let me drink my water. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:46]: I'm wondering what's in the water. Tiff [00:03:48]: So Right? I have to ask search if he gave me the other stuff. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:53]: So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So just trying to trying to I gotta take it to another level. Tiff [00:03:58]: You've been shopping lately? Reginald Ferguson [00:04:00]: No. No. No? No. I've been shopping with clients. And like I said, I'm I'm going to an appointment right after this. But, no. I mean, obviously, the suit is a collabo. Tiff [00:04:13]: And It it happened out of a a conference or something like that when you Reginald Ferguson [00:04:18]: going to CTDA. Yep. Big shout out to Peter Antoniadis. So my my boy, Pete, hooked me up with the fabric, had some fabric lying around. Tiff [00:04:28]: Right. Reginald Ferguson [00:04:29]: I plucked down some dough, Snagged it. And then, I was referred to a tailor, and big shout out to Sam of Herringbone and Sweet. And we're gonna try to make some magic happen. I think try to do a collabo. Tiff [00:04:48]: Did during this, experience, did you were you offered a beverage? No. I know that came out of left field, didn't it? Reginald Ferguson [00:04:54]: Yeah. I was like, no. Tiff [00:04:57]: Because I got a topic. Reginald Ferguson [00:04:59]: Okay. Well, what do you got? Tiff [00:05:02]: I, I'm trying to get to this the the point of, there's a new thing happening to draw shoppers into stores. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:09]: What's that? Tiff [00:05:10]: A little perk that you don't get when you're shopping online. Well, I guess you could do it at home, I suppose. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:16]: I get what you're talking about. Tiff [00:05:17]: Have you ever experienced going shopping and they offer you, wine or champagne or Something on the rocks to drink while you're shopping? Reginald Ferguson [00:05:28]: I mean, kinda. I mean, even you and I, when we went to when we went to David Reeves, He had a bar set up. Tiff [00:05:36]: I mean, Reginald Ferguson [00:05:36]: a lot of the men clothiers have bar set ups. Tiff [00:05:38]: Bespoke's tailoring does that. Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:40]: Yeah. Tiff [00:05:40]: Because they wanna you know, want you to relax and Feel like you've gotten extra I'm talking about, like, going into Nordstrom. You know, that big Nordstrom that just opened in the city? Reginald Ferguson [00:05:51]: 57th Street one. Tiff [00:05:52]: Yep. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:54]: What Tiff [00:05:55]: They're offering cocktails. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:57]: How do you know this, Tiff? Tiff [00:05:58]: Oh, I read about it. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:01]: You sure? You sure? That's not personal experience? Tiff [00:06:05]: Oh, dude. I just read about it yesterday. I haven't had an opportunity, but tomorrow, I'm gonna go check it out. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:10]: Oh my god. I wish you would record that experience so we could have that audio Oh. So we could use it for a podcast. I kid you not. Tiff [00:06:18]: Dude, I when I read this article, I was like, finally, they're getting it. The retailers are getting it. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:24]: Finally, they're getting it? You find this exciting? Tiff [00:06:27]: Dude, I have to tell you. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:28]: Please tell me. Tiff [00:06:29]: I went to an event about it hadn't been 2 years ago. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:32]: Yes. Tiff [00:06:32]: It was a, It was a a fundraising event at a at a at a at a retail store, a a woman's clothing store. She used to be a model. Right next to her store, she had a resale shop. So she where she resold high end clothing. Oh. And For the fundraiser at her store, she was giving a certain percentage off of all items, and and, Every dollar was going to fund the cause, which was helping homeless women, and their children Find, homes and and and, and education for the the schoolchildren. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:11]: That's nice. Tiff [00:07:12]: So, basically, you're shopping for a cause. This woman is genius. She had champagne there. Did she know I was coming? She must have known I was coming. Because I walked through the door in a bar. It was like white wine, red wine, and champagne. I was like, oh, she is covering all her bases. Let me tell you. Tiff [00:07:33]: I walked out of that store 5 hours later With $800 of items in my bag. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:40]: Oh, damn. Really? Tiff [00:07:43]: Yep. I was shopping for a cause. I got a discount, 25% Reginald Ferguson [00:07:48]: That's alright. Tiff [00:07:48]: On some stuff I am still wearing today. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:51]: Okay. Tiff [00:07:51]: Really nice things. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:52]: That's Tiff [00:07:53]: good. Unique things. Not the Gap stuff. Not the not the, you know, the the name brand Stuff I used to this was, like, boutique stuff, really nice stuff. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:04]: Not wah wah stuff. Tiff [00:08:05]: And I had a buzz. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:07]: Okay. Really? Tiff [00:08:08]: Yep. It was awesome. It was awesome. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:13]: Okay. Tiff [00:08:14]: You're speechless. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:15]: Because I think this is weird. So I've heard about the Nordstrom thing. I'm aware of it. Matter of fact, I read an article recently. I'm a subscriber to New York Magazine because I keep magazines in business. Tiff [00:08:29]: Yeah. You do. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:30]: I do. So I have 3 in my bag right now. So I read this article, And this lady you should read the New York article. It's really funny. Big shout out. I can't I can't remember the author's name. Tiff [00:08:41]: Oh, this was a Washington Post article. Just to washingtonpost.com, you can find it. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:45]: Your article. Yeah. Tiff [00:08:46]: The one I read. Right. I read it. For the readers, if they wanna Google it Reginald Ferguson [00:08:49]: Right. Tiff [00:08:49]: It's a good it's a fun article. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:50]: Mine, is fun as well. And, essentially, they have bars on certain floors. You're allowed to take your drink between Certain floors, but not all floors. Those drinks are expensive. Tiff [00:09:05]: Wow. Reginald Ferguson [00:09:06]: The double figure Cocktails. Tiff [00:09:09]: Right. 17, $18. But after 2 of them, you don't really care. Reginald Ferguson [00:09:14]: Well, that's what she said. She actually returned her items. She just went off. Then she thought she ripped something because she was buzzed. I mean, here's the thing, ladies and gentlemen. To to Tiff's point earlier, when we go to men's closures, to tailors, custom tailors, They have bars. They have a bar set up, a wheeled bar or maybe something on a shelf. And I think that just hearkens back. Reginald Ferguson [00:09:42]: That's become a thing over the past 10 years about if you're going in for a made to measure program or a bespoke suit. It's a club atmosphere. Tiff [00:09:52]: Yes. It's the guys. If you're hanging out with the guys, Reginald Ferguson [00:09:55]: you're doing the thing. Bros. So matter of fact, big shout out to Institute. I went there for a potential collabo for clients, and they had a setup. I'm grown. So, you know, brother asked me. I was like, If you want I mean, I literally looked at him and said the same. I said, if you want to I mean, my looks said it all. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:17]: Like, this is not important to me. No. It's not gonna change anything. I'm not gonna have multiple rounds, and I wasn't there to make any type of purchase. It was about learning more about their business. Tiff [00:10:28]: Oh, I wasn't there to make a purchase either. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:32]: See, this is this is what's weird about all Tiff [00:10:34]: of this. And then the next day, I considered returning. See. I looked at the bill, and I go, do Wasn't really? Did I really? Who who Reginald Ferguson [00:10:42]: where were you trying Tiff [00:10:42]: when I did this? I tried everything back on again, and let me tell you, I felt just as good wearing that stuff The 2nd day as the date night I bought it when I had a personal shopper working with me, bringing stuff for me as well as another glass of champagne. And I'm like, Yeah. Sure. I'll try this on. I'll try this on. And modeling, I kept it all. It made me feel good the 2nd day without the champagne. Speaker C [00:11:07]: Important. You know, here's Reginald Ferguson [00:11:08]: what's interesting. As a former bartender here in New York City, I'm well aware that the beauty of the bar business is and you know also as a former restaurant manager, is the high margin. Tiff [00:11:21]: Yep. Reginald Ferguson [00:11:21]: Right? I always said if I opened If I could open any type of food and beverage business, I'd open up a bar. Like, years ago growing up, I wanted to o I wanted to have a bar. Tiff [00:11:32]: Wow. Right. Reginald Ferguson [00:11:32]: You never knew that. I wanna have a lounge. Tiff [00:11:34]: Lounge. Reginald Ferguson [00:11:35]: So yes. Yeah. I wanna have a lounge. Tiff [00:11:36]: Totally see you Reginald Ferguson [00:11:37]: in the morning. To have a lounge. And but, I mean, kinda light, not seriously. I almost I almost tried to do it overseas. That was another thing. But I didn't whether it was overseas or here, I didn't really do it seriously. So I was curious. The point is the margins are so high. Reginald Ferguson [00:11:57]: Nordstrom is a interesting situation. Right? Their recent, you know, quarterlies haven't been as good. They have the balls in the chutzpah to be candid to open up a flagship store in New York City at 57th Street, the former home of Coliseum Books. So that's heartbreaking for me. But that was a long time ago. Tiff [00:12:17]: Oh, wow. I didn't even know that that was so long ago. Reginald Ferguson [00:12:19]: Oh, yeah. Absolutely. So the point is, is this I guess my question to you because clearly you're on board. You are you are a doubt. You're going to Nordstrom tomorrow. I'd love I'd love if we could get a live remote, like or at least record something. Like, record something on your phone. Tiffany at North Shore. Reginald Ferguson [00:12:36]: Well, come on. Speaker C [00:12:37]: I get back. Hey. Hey. Help. I gosh. I just I Reginald Ferguson [00:12:46]: I guess I don't know. I guess this is this strong moral streak in me. Tiff [00:12:50]: I wasn't gonna go in that store because I see it. I don't I I I like Nordstrom Rack. That's more my price line. And I wasn't even gonna go into to Nordstrom, but then I read that article, and I'm like, well, if can get a cocktail and walk around and see see what it's all about, then I'll go buy it at rack. That's bad, isn't it? Reginald Ferguson [00:13:12]: It is what it is. Tiff [00:13:13]: Well, the article also argued that it might be creating a problem, you know, encouraging people to drink and, you know Reginald Ferguson [00:13:18]: I don't think people are gonna go crazy. I just I'm just How do Tiff [00:13:21]: they do it with the the you gotta have a license to serve alcohol in New York. It's pretty stringent, and they don't give those licenses out like that. Reginald Ferguson [00:13:29]: No. I mean, I'm sure it's not that difficult for someone who actually serves on his community board Tiff [00:13:34]: Oh, there you go. Reginald Ferguson [00:13:35]: And on specifically permits and licenses in which that's what we do. I literally just had a meeting yesterday in which we gave a sidewalk cafe license to a restaurant that already had a license. It really depends on the community board. You don't know that community board? Tiff [00:13:49]: Wow. But But Reginald Ferguson [00:13:50]: they have 3 I think North Shorehands. Correct me if I'm with 3 bars in there. Tiff [00:13:55]: I don't I don't I Reginald Ferguson [00:13:56]: think so. It it was definitely more than 1. Tiff [00:13:58]: I report after tomorrow. I'll hit them all. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:01]: Oh my god. Oh my god. Let us move on too. Please. Tiff [00:14:08]: Alright. Well, the other thing I wanted to talk about, we kinda started a conversation a couple of podcasts back that sort of been hanging in my mind. And it was about, you remember when we're talking about counterfeit? Reginald Ferguson [00:14:19]: Sure. Tiff [00:14:20]: Counterfeit items? Reginald Ferguson [00:14:21]: Absolutely. Tiff [00:14:21]: Counterfeit I think it was sneakers. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:23]: Yes. Speaking of the podcast. Yeah. We're talking about kicks. Tiff [00:14:26]: So I was I was, thinking to myself, you know, I didn't understand. I'm like, okay. Because I bought counterfeit stuff. I'm gonna own it right now. I I've hit Canal Street. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:38]: Like I was on Canal day Tiff [00:14:40]: I landed in New York City, I went to Canal City. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:43]: On I was on Canal last week, and I saw these ladies. They have these laminated these laminated things that they flash Yeah. Tiff [00:14:50]: I hadn't been done in a long time, so Reginald Ferguson [00:14:52]: I don't know my gosh. Tiff [00:14:53]: Is it still is it still, like, the center of Reginald Ferguson [00:14:55]: It's still a thing. Tiff [00:14:56]: Of you might get That is not Might not what you want. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:59]: When I think of canal, that is not the way I view it because my Canal Street memory start in the seventies. Tiff [00:15:04]: So Yeah. No. Mine started in 1991. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:07]: Yeah. Now it's it's counterfeit bag central. Tiff [00:15:10]: Yeah. Wow. It it was then too. I got my my family Rolex watches. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:15]: Oh my god. Yes. I I remember the Folex. Tiff [00:15:20]: They look good, and you can wash them and dry them, and they would still be okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:23]: Oh my god. Yikes. Tiff [00:15:28]: So that that brings to question the the what what kept lingering in my mind is Yes. What's so bad about the counterfeits? Reginald Ferguson [00:15:35]: Everything. Tiff [00:15:36]: So this is just something we want I wanted to talk to you about. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:39]: Okay. Tiff [00:15:40]: So, one thing we talked about is how Sometimes. A lot of times, these counterfeit items are being made in the actual, manufacturing warehouses. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:51]: Right. It's just those actual Tiff [00:15:52]: Item is being made. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:54]: Yes. Yes. Right. Tiff [00:15:55]: So it is the exact same product. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:58]: Right. Except without It's just priced differently. Right. Because one has the label and one doesn't. I mean, that's the power of brand. Tiff [00:16:07]: So my question is why It's the power of brand. Yes. So you've got 1 person wearing the counterfeits. You got 1 person wearing the real deal. Your brand is still out there. How is what's what's I I'm just playing devil's advocate advocate here. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:24]: Sure. Tiff [00:16:25]: What's the I know the up the bad side is the dollars on the counterfeit don't end up in the dollars of the real brand. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:33]: Yeah. Tiff [00:16:34]: But you've got your brand out there. You've got brand recognition, and they're not really Reginald Ferguson [00:16:39]: But in an illicit way that takes away here's the thing. I hear what you're saying. So we gave we gave a very ideal situation in which you have the factory line, 1 rolls off for a brand, and 1 is unbranded. But we know it doesn't always go down like that. Tiff [00:16:56]: No. Because the fakes have brands on them too. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:58]: No. But what I'm saying is you also have poor quality. I mean, this thing runs a range now. Tiff [00:17:06]: Right. Reginald Ferguson [00:17:06]: You can have Tiff [00:17:07]: It used to I mean, there is some poor quality, but There's some high quality stuff out there. Reginald Ferguson [00:17:11]: Right. That's what I'm saying. It it runs runs a range. That's why I sneakers. Catch myself. Tiff [00:17:16]: You can't tell the difference. You really can. Reginald Ferguson [00:17:18]: Nowadays, it's it's hard to, and that's why I was giving a shout out to GOAT. So Tiff [00:17:24]: Well, let me bring something else up. Reginald Ferguson [00:17:25]: Sure. Tiff [00:17:26]: Those who are buying counterfeits, are they the real market for the brands anyway? Reginald Ferguson [00:17:32]: I think that's an excellent question. I don't even know how well I can answer it intelligently. So I have a I have a casual friend from NYU, from Stern. I'm gonna shout him out too. I'm gonna play you out, Shawn Wilson, but not in a bad way. I haven't seen him in a long time. So if he hears this, he'll come at me. He once was my client, and I remember I just started chuckling because he his whole his whole strategy was getting real stuff, and getting fake stuff, and combining it. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:07]: And I remember looking at him, My jaw dropped. I was like, what are you talking about? He was like, yeah. So you get a Louis Vuitton bag that's real, and then you go to Canal Street and get a fake Rolex. I was like, Sean, this is insane. He's like, no. I'm telling you, it's a it's a it's a great idea. It works. It was like and you balance it. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:29]: You blend it. I still I mean, I'm juggling right now. I'm just like, what? Tiff [00:18:33]: I get what he's saying because then it you know, Everybody would think you got the real deal. Everything is real. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:38]: How about just getting the real deal? Tiff [00:18:40]: Because you can't afford it. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:41]: Then don't get the real deal and just wait. Tiff [00:18:43]: But it's status. You gotta have the real deal because it's status. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:48]: Listen. I was a kid once. I'm grown now. And my point is, of course, as a kid, there are these things. You know how that works. We all do. Went to our parents, went to our grandparents in my case. Gotta have this. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:00]: Gotta have this. Gotta have this. God bless my grandparents who's who seemingly were able to divine the difference between what I really needed and what I wanted. And also me having a job, you know, some type of part time job, after school job for me to get the things to fill in the gaps if they would didn't. Because my point is now whether you're a kid, but more importantly, it what it sounds like we're talking about, Tiffany, is from an adult standpoint. Like, hey. I wanna get this stuff. I wanna get this type of swag. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:33]: Right. Tiff [00:19:34]: I must have it. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:35]: Right. They're I must have it. Tiff [00:19:36]: Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:37]: Right. I mean, Here's the thing. I've never gone to the extreme. If you remember because I think you said you saw all of it now. Sessions of a Shopaholic. We're talking about a situation in which this woman essentially is making a choice between paying rent and making a purchase. Tiff [00:19:58]: Yes. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:59]: I've never done that. I never will do that. I'm more patient now than ever before in terms of purchasing, in terms of buying. There if there are things within, within my reach, then they're within my reach. If there are things that are out of my reach, that's just gonna be okay. Tiff [00:20:14]: Right. But that's not okay for the people who buy these counterfeits. You have to know that. Reginald Ferguson [00:20:19]: So what is their mentality? Because I don't claim to really know or understand. Tiff [00:20:22]: I don't know either, but it's, it is a big problem, this article that I read, because, you know, I read your articles when you send them to me. And, and it's, it's so big that a lot of these brand retailers are gonna follow suit, with Nike. Nike I'm gonna I don't wanna name check 1 online, marketplace, but Nike has pulled out, all of its products. You can only get Nikes from Nike. Yeah. I know. Because of the counterfeit problems. Right. Tiff [00:20:52]: And other brands are starting to follow suit because they're also having the same issue. Too. Because we can go on Canal Street, but now you don't have to just go on Canal Street. You can go online. Online. And you can get fakes. I have a funny story. You can get fakes anywhere. Tiff [00:21:10]: I got for Christmas, Michael. He wanted a Kris Kreider Ranger jersey, a winter classic jersey. And, yeah, it's like 400, $500. I went online, and I got it for less than $100. And he was wearing it to the Ranger game, and patches Started falling off of it because it was counterfeit. It wasn't stitched. The things weren't Digits. One thing fell off here, and another thing fell Speaker C [00:21:41]: off the game? Tiff [00:21:44]: Right before the game. And then Reginald Ferguson [00:21:55]: He How was he? Tiff [00:21:56]: I told him afterwards. I told him afterwards. And, yeah. That's what that's what you get. That's what you get. Reginald Ferguson [00:22:06]: Buyer, beware. Fake buyer. Tiff [00:22:11]: Ever see I mean, I've seen some fake, but I've never seen fakes fall apart like that before. I mean, that was pretty that was pretty hysterical. But, yes, that's That's money out of my pocket for something that's, you know I I don't know if anybody else noticed, but I sure did. I'm like, oh, Get back on there. Stick back on there. Reginald Ferguson [00:22:29]: Just shoot on like this. Wow. Yo. Look at Tiff [00:22:35]: But then I felt bad. I was like, oh, okay. Now Well, Reginald Ferguson [00:22:38]: you should've felt bad. I mean, why why did you do that? It's just Tiff [00:22:41]: because I I didn't have no job. Reginald Ferguson [00:22:44]: I know you Tiff [00:22:45]: And I want to buy a Christmas present that he wanted. So I think that's that's part of it. Reginald Ferguson [00:22:50]: Glitter's falling off. I'm sorry, Michael. I didn't raise it that way, Michael. Tiff [00:22:58]: But, you know, there are times when, people don't they they they, They don't knowingly buy counterfeit stuff. That's that's where I see the real problem. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:06]: That's different. Tiff [00:23:07]: When you're buying something, like, on this marketplace and you thinking you're getting the real deal, And then you what you get is not. Right. That's a huge problem. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:15]: Absolutely. Tiff [00:23:16]: That's that's a, Reginald Ferguson [00:23:17]: That's why I don't like any of this. Tiff [00:23:20]: Well, it's something that's so big that another article I read, there's apparently this dude that does sneakers. He he does, replica sneakers Reginald Ferguson [00:23:30]: Okay. Tiff [00:23:30]: So nicely that people go to him for the replica sneakers over the Actual real sneakers because he changes a little something. He changes a little something about it that makes that sneaker better. So the pea the people are they're going after these fakes, but the the they're going after these fakes because they think the fakes are better. It's like the fakes have been Have their own brand. Does that Reginald Ferguson [00:23:57]: make any sense? My god. Tiff [00:23:58]: Do you know what I'm saying? Reginald Ferguson [00:23:59]: I understand. I just don't know where this world is going to. Tiff [00:24:03]: Dude has he he's got a ghost name. It's David. It's like everybody online calls him David. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:08]: Generic. Tiff [00:24:08]: You gotta go see David for your sneakers, and he works out of China, a province in China. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:13]: He does. Tiff [00:24:13]: And, and, like, he is sought after. This dude is Reginald Ferguson [00:24:17]: To make fakes. Tiff [00:24:18]: To make fakes. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:20]: Because much do these fakes go for? Tiff [00:24:22]: I I A couple $100 less than the real thing, but they're still he's Reginald Ferguson [00:24:27]: But his fakes are not cheap is my point. Tiff [00:24:29]: Probably not. No. Speaker C [00:24:30]: Holy Reginald Ferguson [00:24:30]: this is just But Tiff [00:24:31]: they're still probably cheaper than the originals, But there's they're not exactly the same. I mean, they're made in the same factory as the originals. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:40]: Oh, the same time. Tiff [00:24:40]: Oh, yeah. He has them sourced out of the same factory. I guess He's got people in all these factories. But then he adds something just a little different, like, light up soles on 1 pair of sneakers that he that made it A totally different pair, but it was still a pair of Yeezy's, but they they had light up soles on them or something like that. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:57]: I don't understand any of this. Tiff [00:24:59]: What do you yeah. I mean Reginald Ferguson [00:25:01]: I just don't. When I was a kid, even, one of our one of our guests, Carlos Carlos Odesma, he reached out to me, and he had heard our counterfeit podcast episode Mhmm. Topic. And he remembered in Argentina as a kid Like, it would always be blatant like us too. Like, you like, you knew growing up if it was fake. My whole point is now you just Truly don't know. Tiff [00:25:27]: You don't. Reginald Ferguson [00:25:27]: Like, instead of Pumas, it'd redoomas. You know, like, something like that. Not for real. It'd be like, hey. Hey. Yeah. In particular, we would always know someone who got those. Yeah. Tiff [00:25:37]: You get those at, t g and y. You get the fakes at t g and y. Reginald Ferguson [00:25:41]: I just I don't I just don't I mean, you can see me. Tiff [00:25:43]: Payless shoes. I would get my fakes there. Reginald Ferguson [00:25:46]: I just don't understand. Yeah. But to me, that's that's still different. I I I just you could tell. I just don't understand it. I don't understand any of this. Tiff [00:25:53]: Well Reginald Ferguson [00:25:53]: I just don't. Tiff [00:25:54]: I I don't. It's creating quite a challenge online as it as it used to be On the ground in, you know, in different places in the world where you, have people selling fakes on the street. It's now moved online, and It like you said, it's becoming more and more clever and harder and harder to stop. So Reginald Ferguson [00:26:12]: Bananas. Tiff [00:26:13]: Bananas? It's Yeah. Bananas. Oh, it's bananas. Yeah. It's bananas. I mean, just be careful out there. Reginald Ferguson [00:26:22]: I shall. I mean, I hope everything I have is real, because I I'm I mean, I go to stores, regular stores. Tiff [00:26:30]: Right. Well, you go you go to the Stores themselves. You don't really buy on these mass marketplaces that aggregate all these different things that you can get from this one place. No, man. That's where a lot of it is, so You should be safe. Reginald Ferguson [00:26:43]: Thank god. Tiff [00:26:44]: But it it's just interesting. I don't Reginald Ferguson [00:26:45]: It is very interesting. I I would never dispute that. Tiff [00:26:47]: And then, you know, Why yeah. Why not buy the real thing? Oh, because it's too expensive. Reginald Ferguson [00:26:52]: Okay. And and Then do without or Tiff [00:26:55]: get something else. Thing is just as nice as a real thing. It's even better. Look. The souls light up. Custom made, yo. Reginald Ferguson [00:27:02]: I'm so glad I'm grown because these are These are difficult choices. Tiff [00:27:06]: These are Reginald Ferguson [00:27:06]: fashion grown people Tiff [00:27:07]: These Reginald Ferguson [00:27:08]: are kids. Tiff [00:27:08]: These are fashion fools. Reginald Ferguson [00:27:11]: Fashion Fools. Tiff [00:27:20]: Fashion fools, what What foolish things are happening in fashion today, Reg? Reginald Ferguson [00:27:24]: Men who don't polish their damn shoes. Speaker C [00:27:27]: What? Reginald Ferguson [00:27:28]: Exactly. Men who do not polish their shoes as a rule. Their dress shoes. Their casual shoes. Tiff [00:27:34]: I mean, isn't Reginald Ferguson [00:27:35]: that shoes that are leather. Tiff [00:27:36]: Right. You gotta You you just it's part of the game. Right? It's part of you get some leather shoes. You gotta polish them. Right? Reginald Ferguson [00:27:41]: I mean, I never I never felt it was a game. Tiff [00:27:44]: You know what I mean? Reginald Ferguson [00:27:45]: I do. Here's my here's my point. You see a lot of men, if they even wear shoes. Right? Because because we've talked about that. I we've just talked about that in our most recent episode. Tiff [00:27:55]: And loafers are called shoes. Reginald Ferguson [00:27:57]: Yes. Because they are. So These individuals have decided that if they are gonna wear shoes, that a style for them is not polishing their shoes. Tiff [00:28:10]: I was gonna ask you what if that's something that they're trying to that's that's That's their c's. Reginald Ferguson [00:28:16]: That's ridiculous, though. Let me explain why. K. Number 1, leather is a skin. Tiff [00:28:26]: That's very important. Reginald Ferguson [00:28:28]: To know. So my point is just like, particularly, if you look like me in search, When you come out the shower in the morning, if you don't want your skin to be ashy, you moisturize it. Tiff [00:28:42]: That happens to me too. I have to moisturize every day. Reginald Ferguson [00:28:45]: Okay. But you don't get ashy. That I guarantee. So my point is you have to do something to your skin in order for your skin to benefit. Otherwise, it's gonna be dry and crackly. Right. Tiff [00:29:01]: And wrinkly, it might break open. Or Reginald Ferguson [00:29:03]: Yes. So it is no different for your skin when you come out the shower than it is for or a shoe that you may wear either infrequently if you're smart to mitigate damage or often. Tiff [00:29:17]: And it's not just shoes, like leather coats too. You need to also polish and moisturize too. Reginald Ferguson [00:29:23]: Sure. But Tiff [00:29:24]: We're talking about shoes. Reginald Ferguson [00:29:25]: We're talking about shoes. Tiff [00:29:26]: We're talking about those who choose not to do their shoes. Reginald Ferguson [00:29:29]: So they think they think it's a style. I think it's their quest for patina. So but these people are going to wear their shoes out with such speed and alacrity that they're gonna constantly buy the few shoes they do. It makes a lot more sense. Here's the very least you can do, ladies and gentlemen. You can just use neutral polish, The very least. Tiff [00:30:01]: Neutral meaning there's no color in it? Reginald Ferguson [00:30:03]: Exactly. Tiff [00:30:03]: And it's just the wax? Reginald Ferguson [00:30:05]: Or the cream. Okay. So because there's a difference too, ladies and gentlemen. You have wax polish like the traditional kiwi. Tiff [00:30:12]: Right. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:13]: And then you have the cream like melatonin. Tiff [00:30:15]: So I'm not familiar with the cream. I'm not familiar with, You use it the same clearly, you don't use it the same way, do you? Or Reginald Ferguson [00:30:22]: What I like to do let's say, if I have a pair of brown shoes, and they literally, you know, polish wise, everything matches. So what I like to do is I get the old school Kiwi. I usually use a rag. Sometimes I use a dauber. I mean, it's interchangeable. I use both. And the first thing I do is I try to work the stress lines, because you need to really work that in. Tiff [00:30:51]: K. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:51]: And then I just overall polish the shoot. But you gotta try to work the lines. And the reason why you work the lines, because if you don't, due to the stress, those lines, that's where the drying is gonna happen, and that's when the crackle Yep. Tiff [00:31:04]: Is gonna the leather is dry, it's gonna rip. Reginald Ferguson [00:31:06]: Yeah. It's it's a tough deal. Tiff [00:31:07]: So Moisturized leather, just like skin, is very hard to rip. Reginald Ferguson [00:31:12]: Exactly. So I start with the wax, and I let the wax sit for around 24 hours. So meaning, let's say I polish in the morning, and I just let it aside. And then the next morning, Yeah. Because, hey, it should work in. So and then that next day, I'll polish. And then if I wanna be super slick, then I'll take the Melatonin, the cream, and put that on top. Tiff [00:31:41]: On top of the wax. Reginald Ferguson [00:31:42]: Uh-huh. Okay. With the melatonin, I don't wait. I don't know if I should. I probably should, but I don't. The wax, I definitely do. And then I brush that to a shine. Every once in a while, I'll hit it with the cloth. Reginald Ferguson [00:31:56]: I'm not nearly as good as my late grandfather, but to his credit, he taught me a lot about shoe care, and that's why I have his old shoeshine kit. Nice. AKA the boot black boot black kit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tiff [00:32:10]: That's amazing. Reginald Ferguson [00:32:11]: Yeah. I do love it. And I Tiff [00:32:13]: do love it. Like to do your own shoes? Reginald Ferguson [00:32:15]: Or Yeah. Tiff [00:32:15]: Or do you like going to get your shoes polished? No. It's not like a spa for your shoe, and you sit there and it's comforting. Reginald Ferguson [00:32:22]: It's totally cool. And speaking of spa, big shout out to Leather Spa because that's where I have gotten it done. Tiff [00:32:29]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:32:29]: So particularly the one over in Midtown West, but they also have 1 downtown Financial District. So, yeah, that it's cool, but I think because I didn't grow up that way. I grew up polishing my shoes. Tiff [00:32:41]: Doing your own thing? Reginald Ferguson [00:32:42]: My late grandfather polishes, taught me how to polishes. I polish shoes. But isn't it an indulgence that I like? Yeah. But I just don't think about it. Tiff [00:32:50]: Oh, okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:32:51]: But it's cool. Tiff [00:32:52]: It does look cool. Reginald Ferguson [00:32:53]: You stand you're sitting there reading the magazine of paper. Tiff [00:32:57]: Right? And you're getting your shoes all shined up and everything. Reginald Ferguson [00:32:59]: Yeah. I just feel like I'm just not that guy, but it is slick. Tiff [00:33:03]: I wanna do that. I have a pair of, tall black boots I wanna get done like that. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:07]: Go to Leather Spot. They'll hook you up. Tiff [00:33:08]: Alright. I will. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:11]: Come on, guys. Get some powers in your life. Tiff [00:33:13]: Yeah. Do it. It's ridiculous. Yeah. I mean, you're spending a lot of money on these leather shoes. You're making an investment, So you have a way to keep your investment, flexible, shall we say? Reginald Ferguson [00:33:26]: Shining is fly. Tiff [00:33:28]: Shining is fly. And there you have it. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:30]: Deal with it. Tiff [00:33:31]: Alright. Moving on. Speaking of, Let's move on to our next subject, the, the sec segment we call I must have it. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:41]: Okay. I must have it. I must have it. Have it. Tiff [00:33:53]: And I have it. I must have it today. What? Again. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:56]: Tiff, take over number 2. Tiff [00:33:58]: Well, it seemed it seemed obvious that, you know, we're talking about polishing shoes and everything. The I must have it is custom made shoes. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:08]: Oh, bespoke shoes? Yeah. Talking my language. Tiff [00:34:12]: Yes. Whoo. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:13]: That's too rich in my blood. Tiff [00:34:15]: Yeah. It's a little bit, expensive, but Listen. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:19]: You're talking about John Lobb in it. Tiff [00:34:20]: Well, I don't know what that means. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:22]: John Lobb. Famous English Shoemaker. Tiff [00:34:26]: Oh, okay. So you got all the knowledge over there. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:30]: George Cleverly. Tiff [00:34:31]: Well, it just makes sense. If you're We need to spend a couple of $1,000 or more on a bespoke suit. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:36]: Yes. Tiff [00:34:37]: You gotta invest in a in do they call them bespoke shoes? Or And Reginald Ferguson [00:34:41]: and, I mean, if you're literally starting from, you know, a last in the whole year then. Yeah? Tiff [00:34:46]: Mhmm. Made to order bespoke custom ordered shoes. Mhmm. And, I mean, it's something that that you you could have done. Right? Reginald Ferguson [00:34:56]: I mean I could have. I mean, I'm fortunate that my shoe size I mean, I'm fortunate about my proportions overall. So I'm a off the rack size when it comes to suiting. I'm a keep it real. Tiff [00:35:08]: Alright. I mean, Reginald Ferguson [00:35:08]: I have no I have no problem with that. Big shout out to, Hasib Khan of MTM Design. We just had a conversation about that because his whole premise and I respect it. He was, like, once you do bespoke or made to measure, you never go back. And my feeling is for myself much less my Clients. I'm like, well, shoot them if you got them. If I can find something dope and it's off the rack because I'm a off the rack size Tiff [00:35:34]: There you go. Reginald Ferguson [00:35:34]: I'm gonna do it. Tiff [00:35:35]: Right. Reginald Ferguson [00:35:36]: If I want made to measure or bespoke, okay. But I'm never gonna make an apology because I'll take a off the rack suit and either just straight up it's good and I'm fine, or maybe I'll make a tweak. Maybe I don't like the buttons of it. Swap out the buttons. You know, real simple stuff. But I know a lot of times, tailors look at me and they think that everything is either bespoke or made to measure army, and it's not. I'm I'm gonna keep it real. It's not. Tiff [00:36:04]: You are very fortunate. Reginald Ferguson [00:36:05]: I am. It's a blessing. I know that. So when it comes to shoes, it's the same type of thing. I don't have a odd with I mean, I have narrow feet, to be honest. I'm a d with, which is standard. So I don't have anything crazy going on That, to me, warrants that type of purchase Tiff [00:36:21]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:36:22]: For me. Tiff [00:36:23]: But Reginald Ferguson [00:36:24]: Yes. Tiff [00:36:25]: It's out there if you wanted it. And I think Reginald Ferguson [00:36:29]: Everything's out there if you want it, particularly New York. Tiff [00:36:31]: I I like the idea. I like this idea. I don't like the price tag, of course. I can't. Reginald Ferguson [00:36:36]: Get what you pay for. Tiff [00:36:37]: That's true. Reginald Ferguson [00:36:37]: Starting from scratch. Tiff [00:36:38]: But there's a there's a lot of wonderful shoemakers out there for men. Men's shoes are always Really, really I mean, you can buy some real junk for women. But for men, I've always seen really nicely done men's shoes. It's like, I I don't know. To me, I go into the, you know, the women's shoe section of Macy's, and it's the entire freaking 2 avenues deep. And then you go to the men's shoe store, and it's like a corner of 1 it's like a but everything in there is quality. It is I you can tug on it. You can feel it's heavy. Tiff [00:37:11]: You can feel it, you know, most everything in comparison. You know? Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:15]: I was gonna say because I think there are dogs, You know, in any store. Tiff [00:37:19]: Right. Well, also, but to have a nice pair of custom made shoes. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:26]: That's hot. Tiff [00:37:27]: It is. And if you think about it, if you're gonna wear I mean, custom made shoes you'll wear for how how old is your oldest pair of shoes That you have. That you polish on a regular basis and that you get taken care of. You replace the heels and then and the taps, and you keep them nice. How old? Reginald Ferguson [00:37:45]: If you're using taps, first of all, you'll never have to replace a heel. You could ask my client, Bob Bondage. I gave him some knowledge on that. Tiff [00:37:53]: Good to know. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:54]: I'm not really sure, to be honest. I'm better working in a different perspective. I gave away a pair of shoes, like, 2 years ago, a pair of Santonis, lace up black cap toes. I had those for 20 years. Tiff [00:38:19]: Holy clap. That's that's 20 years. Reginald Ferguson [00:38:22]: I know for 20 years. Tiff [00:38:23]: I I I tell you, I I never had a pair of shoes last me 20 years. Reginald Ferguson [00:38:27]: 20 years. Tiff [00:38:28]: Ever ever ever ever ever. Reginald Ferguson [00:38:29]: The key to that though is twofold. It is shoe care that we just talked about. Tiff [00:38:36]: Yep. So Reginald Ferguson [00:38:36]: you gotta ride or die for your shoe care. Tiff [00:38:38]: No matter how you wanna look all patina ed or roughed up or whatever, Take care of your shoes. Reginald Ferguson [00:38:44]: Exactly. But number 2, as I shared recently with a client, big shout out to Jordan Sysco, You have to mitigate you have to mitigate wear and tear. How you mitigate wear and tear is by having numerous pairs of shoes. Tiff [00:39:01]: So you can rotate them out. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:02]: Exactly. Tiff [00:39:03]: And most guys, they spend a lot of time in their sneakers, and they wear the dress shoes and the nice leather shoes with their suits or their, You know, casual gears, so they probably don't get as much. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:13]: Paying attention. They're not paying attention to this to this knowledge I'm dropping. Because to me, that's that's what it's about. If you do that the only reason why I gave those Antonis away is that they started pinching me because, candidly, I got a crack, and I took them to Leather Spa. Big shout to Leather Spa. And they put a new piece of leather. But that means when you do that pull and then you insert, it's a little smaller. Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:39]: I have narrow feet as it is, and it was just rubbing. I put shoe stretch. I was just like, you know what? I've had it for 20 years. So what did I do? I gave it to the less fortunate. I gave them to the Bowery Mission. Couldn't be happier about it. Tiff [00:39:51]: Right. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:52]: Clearly clearly, I won. Right? 20 years. Tiff [00:39:54]: Yeah. And I the whole point of me asking you that is, so the starting point so there's a there's a company, Paul Stewart. We talked about Paul Stewart as a designer. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:03]: Yeah. Fashion hero. Tiff [00:40:04]: Fashion hero. Well, he's upholstery. He's starting to offer custom made shoes, bespoke shoes. And it will consist of 7 to 10 silhouettes, and that will include loafers, oxfords, and monk straps. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:18]: Yep. Tiff [00:40:19]: And they're gonna be starting around $1,000, Thousand to $1300. But if you do the math and let's say divide that $1,000 by 10, that's $100 a year. That's a great deal. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:32]: It is. Tiff [00:40:32]: Because these shoes are custom made to your feet. They're gonna last a lifetime. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:38]: If you take care of them. Tiff [00:40:40]: If you take care of them. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:41]: I'll give you a great example, not to belabor the point. Today is drizzling rain. I have my galoshes in my bag. I did not take my galoshes out. I hope when I leave that it doesn't rain any heavier Because if it does, then I won't put on my galoshes. But my point is when I get home, I will be polishing my shoes. Tiff [00:41:02]: Because of the yes. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:03]: Just that slight moisture, yo. Gotta do it. Tiff [00:41:06]: Gotta do it. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:07]: And also these pair of shoes, I'm taking to the ATL. So gotta get a little shine on it. We do maybe do a little spit. Tiff [00:41:19]: So back to the must have it Item of made to order custom made You're you're Reginald Ferguson [00:41:24]: you're you're putting Michael down into the program. That's what you're saying. Tiff [00:41:27]: Well, I I can't. I seriously and this is a lot of money for me to spend. Seriously thought about this. Because like I said, these shoes will be with him for the rest of his life, And he'll be takes Reginald Ferguson [00:41:38]: care of them. Tiff [00:41:39]: And and he will. You telling me if I drop a dime like that, he is definitely gonna take care of them Reginald Ferguson [00:41:43]: for sure. Tip dropping the g on Michael. Tiff [00:41:46]: Right? Reginald Ferguson [00:41:47]: No. Don't tell him. Oh. Tiff [00:41:51]: But I I wanted this to be because it is I can yeah. If you have a bespoke suit, Go the next step. Take it top to bottom. Get those shoes. You will not be sorry. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:01]: I hear you. Tiff [00:42:03]: And that is the end of my pitch. And my takeover. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:09]: Yep. Alright, Tiff. Let's do it. Fashion word of the day. Tiff [00:42:13]: Here Comes the game that I always win. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:21]: Fashion Word of the Day of the Day. Tiff [00:42:26]: Not. Well, the challenge for me is, you know, have already used the word apparently. So yeah. Let's see if I got one that I haven't used. You want me to go Reginald Ferguson [00:42:39]: 1st? Speaker C [00:42:39]: Sure. Alright. Tiff [00:42:39]: So if this is word of the day where I bring a word, he brings a word, we challenge each other how to spell Reginald Ferguson [00:42:44]: it We have words. Tiff [00:42:46]: Define it, And use it in a sentence if we get it right. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:48]: Yep. Yep. Tiff [00:42:48]: So alright. My word to you, bird's eye. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:55]: Oh, crap. Oh, well, I know how to spell it. B I r d s e y e. Tiff [00:43:03]: Alright. I'll give it to you. There's apostrophe s, but I'll Reginald Ferguson [00:43:06]: Oh, come on. Tiff [00:43:07]: I'll give it to you. It is also a hyphenated word, So you didn't get the hyphen either. Reginald Ferguson [00:43:12]: On. Oh my god. Really? Tiff [00:43:15]: Birds Eye. Reginald Ferguson [00:43:17]: Oh, crap. I used to know this. I'm just gonna take a quick whiff, and then I'll probably just get buzzed. You know what? I I can't remember. Tiff [00:43:31]: Alright. Yay. Word that we didn't use. Birds Eye is a woven pattern. Reginald Ferguson [00:43:38]: I know that, but I couldn't Tiff [00:43:40]: It's a traditional it's a traditional woven pattern usually done in wool for suiting Or in silk for neckwear. It's a small dot pattern that it it actually looks like a bird's eye. Reginald Ferguson [00:43:52]: Oh my god. Tiff [00:43:52]: Isn't that awesome? Reginald Ferguson [00:43:54]: For you. Yes. I'm wild. Yes. Oh my god. Tiff [00:43:59]: I win. Reginald Ferguson [00:43:59]: Okay. Tiff [00:44:00]: Alright. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:00]: Certainly not competitive over there. Tiff [00:44:02]: Sorry. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:03]: So oh, it's fine. It's fine. I I I could take it. Tiff [00:44:06]: Bring it. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:06]: So got that mama mentality. Alright. Patchpocket. Tiff [00:44:11]: Patchpocket, p a t c h. Second word, p o c k e t, patch Pocket. Yep. To the pocket that is attached. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:20]: Did you say tiz? Tiff [00:44:22]: I said tiz. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:24]: Okay. Tiff [00:44:25]: To the pocket that is, it it And it's manufactured, laid on top of, the receiving fabric and stitched around. So it sits on the outside of your Suit coat or your back of your jeans or your you know, if you're into those kind of slacks with patch pockets in the front from the seventies, That's called a patch pocket. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:46]: I hope search gives you extra bells. Tiff [00:44:48]: Did I get it wrong? Reginald Ferguson [00:44:50]: No. I said bells. Tiff [00:44:51]: Oh, I got it right, And I made a sentence at the same time. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:53]: Yes. You rocked it. Tiff [00:44:54]: I made, like, 3 sentences. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:56]: Wow. That was that was brutal. I you patch bad for me. Tiff [00:44:59]: Let me give you a little history on patch pockets. Okay. It's one of the 1st pocket, first I should say, the next thing I learned after sewing a seam was sewing patch pockets. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:09]: Oh, good for you. Tiff [00:45:10]: Yep. Yep. I was, 7th grade. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:13]: Man. Tiff [00:45:13]: I had patch pockets on a jumper I made. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:15]: Oh, very nice. Tiff [00:45:17]: Yes. Yes. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:19]: 7th grade. I was I don't even know what I was doing. Well, that's a wrap. Thank you so much for listening. Tiff [00:45:27]: Thank you. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:28]: We hope you had fun and are down for another one. Please tell your friends about us. Special shout goes to our producer search. Tiff [00:45:36]: And if you, if you're just joining us, thank you. Please, you know, tune in every other Monday, every other other Monday because I travel a lot. We drop a new episode, so, come back and visit us if you've been with us the whole ride. We thank you. 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Reginald Ferguson [00:46:45]: That's damn right. Tiff [00:46:46]: That is absolutely right. And she So Alright. She has a restaurant on there. Reginald Ferguson [00:46:50]: A restaurant. She had, 2 versions of that restaurant in New York City. I think still open. No. It's not Tiff [00:46:56]: It's closed? Reginald Ferguson [00:46:57]: Yeah. The the 2nd iteration was on Restaurant Row. I was fortunate enough to have met her once. She was a hero. I'm Reg. Tiff [00:47:09]: And I'm Tiff. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:10]: See you next time. And remember, Always Always Be Fly.