Reginald Ferguson [00:00:01]: Hello, I'm Reg. Tiff [00:00:02]: And I'm TIFF. And we're the Fashion Geeks trying to make New York and the world. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:06]: Well, New York is the world. Tiff [00:00:07]: A little flyer, one outfit and podcast at a time. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:15]: Welcome to the ride, everybody. I am Reg. Tiff [00:00:17]: And I am TIFF. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:18]: And we are the fashion geeks. Tiff [00:00:20]: Welcome. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:22]: If this is your first listen, we're so happy to have you. If this is another listen, we're happy to have you. Tiff [00:00:28]: Yeah, we're just happy to have anybody. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:29]: Absolutely. I don't know about that. Wait a second. Tiff [00:00:32]: We have no if you got ears, we want you to listen, we're happy. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:38]: To have anybody because we want you to be entertained. But we also want you to be informed, and we also want you to be enlightened. Tiff [00:00:44]: Yes. So enlighten us reg. Who are you? Reginald Ferguson [00:00:48]: I am Reg Ferguson. I am the creator of New York fashion geek. New York fashion geek is a fashion consultancy. Tiff [00:00:54]: Personal trainer. But who knew we needed personal trainer for fashion? Reginald Ferguson [00:00:58]: Absolutely. We could work on pants, we could work on shoes, we could work on shirts. Tiff [00:01:03]: Top to bottom. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:04]: Absolutely. Tiff [00:01:04]: Let's do some reps. All right, I'm in there. So I come to the Fashion Geek from a design and fabric and form and fit point of view. I used to design and build costumes, so I love fabric. I love to touch it, I love to look at it. I love to think about what I can make with it. And then once it's all done, I like to see how it fits. And when there's a good fit, there's a real visceral sensation in me that goes, man, that looks good. Tiff [00:01:37]: A good fit moves me. So I moved you today. Yeah. You got a nice fitting jacket on or suit? Suit jacket at a table. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:46]: I can I understand. Tiff [00:01:48]: I like the way your shoulders are laying right now and your lapel collar. Very nice role that you've got going on. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:54]: Appreciate it. Tiff [00:01:55]: So, yeah, the fit looks good. Very nice. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:58]: Ding, ding, ding, ding. Tiff [00:02:00]: You're a winner. So we've been doing a little bit of our own thing in between episode recordings. Yeah. So what have you been up to? Give me a little dose of fashion stuff, excitement. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:16]: Been doing some sample sales again. Tiff [00:02:18]: It just seems to be tis the season. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:22]: I guess you're right. Every episode we set up, it seems that's a part of conversation now. Tiff [00:02:28]: Well, let's talk about that because not everybody knows what a sample sale is. So enlighten. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:35]: Well, the old school definition, which doesn't necessarily hold true any longer, is that like, for example, when I was growing up, and probably way before, you would go to a sample sale and essentially from a designer, you would have one off pieces that maybe were originally designated for retail but never made it. Tiff [00:02:57]: So they're unique. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:58]: They're unique. Tiff [00:02:59]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:00]: I don't necessarily think you have that now. Tiff [00:03:04]: It's changed a little bit. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:05]: I think it's changed drastically. Tiff [00:03:06]: They're like making several pieces. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:09]: Sure. You'll see, every once in a while, you'll go to one and you'll find that one off, and that, I think, is that's cool. That's great. Tiff [00:03:16]: And that is a fine if you find that, you know, nobody else is going to be wearing that, because that's a true sample. Yes, I love that. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:24]: But I think oftentimes now, it's just out of season merch. Tiff [00:03:27]: Okay. Stuff they just want to move. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:29]: They didn't move, and they don't want. Tiff [00:03:31]: To send it to Marshall's, and they don't want to send it to any. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:34]: Of the value their brand. Tiff [00:03:35]: Right, okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:36]: That drastically. But still, if and when you become a client, I will keep you in the loop, and then we will scout. Tiff [00:03:47]: And there are sample sales every week. But you just got to know. You got to be in the know. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:52]: I'm in the know. Tiff [00:03:53]: Because they don't necessarily advertise. They've got their own list of people that signed up at one sample sale, and that's who they send an email to. Hey, we're going to put some stuff out. Come and have a look. Reginald Ferguson [00:04:05]: Sure. Now, last podcast, I got some shopping done for the FAM, but this time, what'd you do? I went for, uh oh. Tiff [00:04:17]: What does that mean? Reginald Ferguson [00:04:18]: Well, what it means is that I went for myself, to get something for myself. I wanted to replace a suit. Tiff [00:04:26]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:04:27]: I had a suit that my friend House of Hawtendorf told me was no longer wearable. Tiff [00:04:34]: Oh, it's like somebody you were wearing it and somebody hmm. You might want to put that on the rack. Reginald Ferguson [00:04:39]: Yep. And give it to the bow remission. Tiff [00:04:41]: Oh, there you go. Reginald Ferguson [00:04:42]: Absolutely. Tiff [00:04:43]: Very nice. Another life. Reginald Ferguson [00:04:45]: Absolutely. Oh, absolutely. No, that's really important. And that's why when I talk about closet inventory, please know gents and ladies. Tiff [00:04:52]: Because sometimes yeah, sometimes ladies need a little help, too. Reginald Ferguson [00:04:56]: Right. But my point is, you have a boyfriend, you have a husband, you have an uncle. I'm going to check out their closets. Tiff [00:05:03]: Right. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:03]: And if there's stuff that really needs to go, I'm going to take it away, and we're going to give it to the Bowie Mission. Tiff [00:05:09]: Good. No need to put any clothes in the landfill because somebody else no, there's enough of that going on already. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:16]: Not at all. So unsurprisingly, probably to our listening audience, I'm a bit persnickety. Tiff [00:05:22]: Really? You think they got that? Reginald Ferguson [00:05:25]: Okay. Wow. Tiff [00:05:26]: I don't know if that was obvious. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:27]: My co host and producer have chimed in, ladies and gentlemen. They seem to have opinions. They're like, wow, my co host is Red now, ladies and gentlemen. Tiff [00:05:39]: Sheesh I turn red when I laugh. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:43]: Okay. Yeah. Especially those truthful laughs. Tiff [00:05:47]: Well, you're a comedian, Reg. I'm just laughing because you're funny. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:50]: Thank you. So I've been scouting out, but I haven't found anything. But I did recently. Tiff [00:06:00]: What'd you find? Reginald Ferguson [00:06:02]: Well, the first day I scouted okay. I found four suits. Tiff [00:06:05]: Yes. We heard about that. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:07]: Yes. Tiff [00:06:07]: And I hid them and you hid them. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:08]: And then the last day, I swooped in like the hawk. Tiff [00:06:11]: That was four days later. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:13]: Yes, correct. Tiff [00:06:16]: What did you find? Reginald Ferguson [00:06:17]: I found two of them, which means the other two were gone, and that's fine. Tiff [00:06:22]: They weren't meant to be. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:23]: Oh, that's fine. I wasn't trying to buy all four suits. I only need one, so I bought the one. The great thing about this, ladies and gentlemen, is when that happens, I don't. Tiff [00:06:32]: Have to try it on again, because you already know. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:35]: I just swoop in like the hawk, and I take my index finger, and I grab the hook, and I go as I was walking out, though, it sounds so exciting. It is. I like to shop, I'm not going to lie. So it comes very naturally. My mom used to take me. I didn't always enjoy it as a young boy. There's no question about that. I would sit in the department stores, in the chairs with the men. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:02]: They were bummed out, and I was just like, I'm a little tired, and there's no snacks. Tiff [00:07:07]: Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:07]: But as I got older, that wisdom, that was imparted to me by my mom and by my grandparents. Starting around elementary school, that started really kicking in. Late elementary, you got that itch. Junior high. Tiff [00:07:21]: Got the shopping itch. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:23]: I never thought about an itch, but I definitely enjoyed it, and I still do to this day. Part of me good makes me feel fresh. Tiff [00:07:31]: Whenever I get something new, I feel so fresh. I like getting into and I guess I can say fly. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:36]: Absolutely. Tiff [00:07:37]: Because it's new. It's all fresh. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:38]: Yeah, but I mean, even your old stuff, you want to be fly because fly is about coordination. Tiff [00:07:42]: That's right. When I put something new together that I have never born together, I'm like, oh, it's fresh and fly because it's different. Same old stuff, but put together differently. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:51]: Right. To be honest, I'm not so much about, oh, it's new, it's new. The novelty. That's not what I'm about. I've been told that I shop like the French, that it's about building a wardrobe and finding a piece that complements what I have. Tiff [00:08:07]: Right. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:08]: Again, if a suit isn't working anymore, then we just need to make a wholesale change. I decided to walk around the shopping floor of the sample sale before I bounced, and I found a rack. Tiff [00:08:20]: Oh, boy. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:21]: It was a set of rods labeled as is. There was a scurry of activity around five of us. Tiff [00:08:32]: Five of you? Reginald Ferguson [00:08:33]: Two short Jewish Israeli gentlemen, and then one Jewish guy who was American. Tiff [00:08:39]: Oh, boy. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:40]: And then an Asian cat. Seemed like he was a doctor. Tiff [00:08:43]: You guys dropping elbows? Reginald Ferguson [00:08:45]: No, we were all different. Well, they were all kind of the same size to me, particularly their height. I was the tallest. Tiff [00:08:52]: Oh, okay. That's a clear advantage. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:55]: I mean, it can be the whole thing was. What was really weird, which kind of lends into the whole original definition of a sample, is that it was hard to determine what the sizes were. Tiff [00:09:05]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:09:06]: So I was trying to show the gentleman that if you go inside one of the suit pockets, generally the right. Tiff [00:09:12]: One, the breast pocket yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:09:14]: You're going to find the size. Tiff [00:09:15]: Right. And a little tag. Reginald Ferguson [00:09:16]: Yes. For some of them, that applied. For some of them it did not. And I saw a tag going into the whole sample. It literally read that it was for a photo shoot for some magazine. Yeah. So that's a true definition. Tiff [00:09:31]: Right. Because they don't put tags on it because it's going to be the model. They already know the model who's going to be wearing it, so they just know the photo shoot. Reginald Ferguson [00:09:37]: Right. A sore sport jacket, all alone, just sitting there. No, all alone, all nestled between no. They didn't have a lot of product on these rods, but I was like, Let me try, and I put it on. It fit me quite well. Tiff [00:09:59]: Of course it did. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:00]: The only problem was the sleeves. Tiff [00:10:03]: They were a little short. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:05]: Okay, but I want to let my listeners know again, when you become a client, this stuff is going to become second knowledge. I'm going to give you a free tip today. Tiff [00:10:14]: Wow. Raking up the free tips. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:16]: I don't know about that. Tiff [00:10:17]: Yeah, but the sample sale tip. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:21]: Yeah, but I mean, information is one thing, knowledge is another, right? Tiff [00:10:26]: That's poetic. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:28]: So know that if you have a jacket and it's from a reputable manufacturer, you're going to have at least an inch to an inch and a half to play with in terms of letting the sleeve out. Tiff [00:10:43]: And the reason is because the finer suit makers will spend a little extra money to have that little extra fabric in their suit wears so that they can be altered to fit more nicely. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:57]: Right. So I took it to my tailor, told them to flush out the sleeves, gave them a week, picked it up this past weekend, and I shot and I scored. Tiff [00:11:10]: Wee. Reginald Ferguson [00:11:13]: Did I mention how much I paid for that jacket? Tiff [00:11:15]: No, you did not. And I think that's the most important part. Reginald Ferguson [00:11:18]: Would you like to guess? Tiff [00:11:20]: Sample cell jacket, not a suit. I'm going to say 100. $200. Reginald Ferguson [00:11:26]: $300. No, $50. Tiff [00:11:33]: $50? Reginald Ferguson [00:11:34]: Yeah. Word up, straight up. Tiff [00:11:36]: Are you kidding me? Reginald Ferguson [00:11:36]: 50 bones. No, I'm not, I'm not jiving. No height, straight up. $50. I needed that jacket like I needed a hole in the head. My jackets have jackets, ladies and gentlemen, but in the words of my late grandfather, old man need More is coming. Gone. His old man want more. Reginald Ferguson [00:11:55]: Keeps knocking on the door. He knocked, you answered. Tiff [00:12:00]: Great. Oh, my God. Reginald Ferguson [00:12:01]: With an amazing it's a wool silk linen blend. Tiff [00:12:06]: You had to buy that at $50. Reginald Ferguson [00:12:08]: It was beautiful. Tiff [00:12:09]: No regrets, right? No regrets. You don't have shoppers regret? Reginald Ferguson [00:12:12]: No. Tiff [00:12:13]: Shoppers remorse? Reginald Ferguson [00:12:14]: No, I don't do that. Tiff [00:12:15]: Good for you, Reg. Reginald Ferguson [00:12:16]: I don't do that. Tiff [00:12:16]: Absolutely. If I was the bad angel on your shoulder and the good angel, we would have been agreeing on that. Jack. Reginald Ferguson [00:12:22]: Absolutely. Tiff [00:12:24]: Good for you. Reginald Ferguson [00:12:25]: Thank you. Tiff [00:12:25]: I know that there was a launch event that you went to as well. Reginald Ferguson [00:12:30]: Yeah, we had a few events that we got invited to at the Nyfg. Yes. Were you traveling again? Is that the reason? Tiff [00:12:36]: Yes. And I'm almost done. I'm almost done. We actually turned down a wedding that required some travel in the ability to travel. Reginald Ferguson [00:12:46]: You turned it down. Tiff [00:12:47]: And a wedding. We love weddings. We love dressing up. That's the reason to pull out all the suits and the finery. I'm tired, I'm tired, I'm tired. I'm ready to put down some roots, and for a little while at least. Reginald Ferguson [00:13:00]: Just don't put any roots on anybody. Tiff [00:13:02]: Okay? I won't, but yeah. So did you find anything at this? Well, the launch event. Tell me about it. Reginald Ferguson [00:13:10]: Yeah, sure. So we were invited to two events at the Nyfg, the Jay Fitzpatrick footwear launch for New York City because he's based out of London. Big shout out to Justin Fitzpatrick and the rowing blazers rugby shirt celebration. Tiff [00:13:26]: I think that's so funny that there's a rugby shirt mean, they get together and celebrate rugby shirts. Reginald Ferguson [00:13:33]: I have a friend, his name is Malcolm Armstrong, another friend of the Nyfg. Big shout out. I invited him to be my plus one because you couldn't go. I told him to text me because it was about timing him coming out of work. And I told him, I said, listen, I'm going to go to the Jay Fitzpatrick event first, and then I'll go to the other one. So we'll coordinate, we'll figure out where to meet, rendezvous, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I had such a good time at Jay Fitzpatrick between Justin, his customers, but his chief salesperson che, who hopefully we're going to have on the podcast we've been talking. So we just have to coordinate cultivate those. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:13]: She's a she's a fountain of information and really would love to have her on the show. The brand is amazing. I met Mr. Fitzpatrick a few years ago at a style forum event. I was invited by another friend of the Nyfg, Paul Buttonhoff, and he had his setup. I looked at his shoes. Beautiful. Welted shoes in all types of different styles. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:38]: He takes a lot of the classics, which I know you appreciate, particularly this London vibe. But then he puts a modern shame. Tiff [00:14:47]: I'm sorry I missed it. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:49]: Yeah. Sneakers, shoes, oxfords, derbies, anything jump in your pocket? Hiking boots? No, I don't need shoes. My shoes have shoes. Tiff [00:15:00]: Your jackets have jackets and your shoes have shoes. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:02]: Absolutely. But I loved looking at the stuff. Tiff [00:15:04]: I bet your closet puts mine to shame. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:08]: You never know. Tiff [00:15:10]: The silence said everything let's not miss that. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:16]: I had such a great time there. Met a lot of people, some potential clientele, clearly, and then come to find out a few days later that my friend Malcolm Armstrong, which I just figured he wasn't available. He works hard. He went to Rowan places without me, without you never told me what? Bum. But he really had time. Tiff [00:15:38]: What did he report back? What did he report back? Reginald Ferguson [00:15:40]: That some of the rugby shirts that he has from back in the day are going for hundreds, if not thousands of dollars. Tiff [00:15:48]: Okay, so now I'm getting it. Okay, so this is like a vintage thing. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:53]: Well, they do both. I mean, they do collabos with famous rowing schools and stuff like that internationally. Tiff [00:16:01]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:01]: I mean, it's everything. It's rowing, it's rugby. And my boy Malcolm is into that, and that's why I wanted to go with him, but instead, he went without my black ass. Tiff [00:16:13]: Well, you had a good time at the shoe place. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:14]: I really did. Tiff [00:16:16]: And you didn't leave with any. But they're always there for you if you ever want to go back. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:20]: No, absolutely. Tiff [00:16:21]: That's a good thing about shoe stores. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:23]: Yes, that's true. But more importantly, learning more about the brand so I can convey that knowledge to my clientele. Extremely important. Tiff [00:16:31]: And the Londoners are super fashionable in a classic way, like you said, with a spin on it. And the fact that you don't have to go to London anymore to get these shoes. You can now get them here. Do you know off the cuff what the address is for their new I. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:48]: Believe it's 16 Christopher Street. Tiff [00:16:49]: All right, everyone, check it out. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:51]: Yes, absolutely. And you can find him on Insta. J fitzpatrick footwear. Tiff [00:16:58]: There you go. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:58]: Stuff is dope. Tiff [00:16:59]: All right. Guess what, Reg? Reginald Ferguson [00:17:00]: What? Tiff [00:17:01]: Guess what. Reginald Ferguson [00:17:02]: I'm guessing what? Tiff [00:17:04]: Guess what? Reginald Ferguson [00:17:05]: I don't know. TIFF. What? Tiff [00:17:07]: This is our 10th episode. Reginald Ferguson [00:17:08]: Oh, really? Tiff [00:17:09]: Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:17:10]: Oh, wow. The big 100. Tiff [00:17:13]: And the reason why this is so big is because when we sat down over those two martinis and talked about having a podcast yes. We're like, okay, what should we aim for? Just to see what happens. And ten was the number, and we are in number ten right now. Reginald Ferguson [00:17:29]: Wow. Let's keep on in stride. Tiff [00:17:32]: So welcome, everyone, to our 10th episode. Let's get on in it, then. All right, so our first segment, fashion heroes. Reginald Ferguson [00:17:38]: Let's do it. Fashion. Fashion. Tiff [00:17:49]: So, Red, you have a fashion hero of the day. Who is that? Reginald Ferguson [00:17:53]: I do. As you all know, I've been a New Yorker all my life. Tiff [00:18:00]: Yep. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:00]: I grew up in Manhattan, distinct in the Bronx, and I currently live in Brooklyn. In all of those years, there's been one mainstay for me the New York Times. My mom had home delivery. My grandparents had home delivery. I have home delivery. I also read online, but the special treat is reading it on the weekends, especially the sunday paper. Tiff [00:18:24]: I have to admit that the first time I ever got the Sunday Times delivered to me, I was like, Holy cow. How am I going to make it through this newspaper? Because I like to read cover to cover. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:33]: You can do it. Tiff [00:18:34]: And I felt immediate anxiety. I am not going to be able to get through this in the allotted amount of time that I have to get through this today. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:42]: Rookie. Tiff [00:18:45]: But it was a pleasure taking out the different sections and deciding which section I'm going to read first and which one I'm going to pass on to my roommate. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:55]: The first section first. Tiff [00:18:56]: I went out of order. I know this is very not virgo of me. I went straight to the leisure section. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:02]: No. Tiff [00:19:03]: Art and Art and culture was next. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:06]: No, we must have order. Tiff [00:19:08]: Wow. I guess that was my moon, my rising or moon sign that took over. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:14]: Maybe the moonbeams affected your brain. You should read it from the first section down and then end with the magazine. Tiff [00:19:22]: Oh, the magazine. Love the magazine. Always. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:24]: Yeah. Magazine is great. So I read every section faithfully. Oh, actually, even before talking about that, please tell me that you know how to do the fold. Tiff [00:19:36]: I don't know. It just folds like that. Just folds in half with all the stuffed stuffed in it? Reginald Ferguson [00:19:41]: No. So you're reading the paper oh. Tiff [00:19:44]: When you're reading and you close it, and then you fold it and you read half at a time. Yes, quarter at a time. That's when you're on the subway and you don't want to be all over your next door neighbor. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:55]: Yeah. Just want to see if you had that skill. Tiff [00:19:56]: Yeah, I was taught that. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:58]: Okay. Very good. So, like, you read every section faithfully? I read mine in order, but the one I always look forward to is on the street. Tiff [00:20:09]: On the street? Reginald Ferguson [00:20:10]: Yeah. Tiff [00:20:11]: On the street. Reginald Ferguson [00:20:12]: Yeah, on the street. Tiff [00:20:13]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:20:14]: Yeah. Thursdays and Sundays on the street. Because I love seeing New Yorkers wearing the latest fashions. Always loved that. Always wanted to be part of that. Always wanted to have my photo. Always. Such a kid. Tiff [00:20:28]: And based on your face, you never were? Reginald Ferguson [00:20:31]: No, I just found out until recently where all that happened. I never knew where. I never knew that. I never knew that. But the photographer for that was Bill Cunningham. Tiff [00:20:43]: And that there is our fashion hero, Bill Cunningham. Reginald Ferguson [00:20:47]: Now, Bill Cunningham wasn't a professionally trained photographer, and he wasn't a native New Yorker, yet his impact on the fashion world is indelible. I mean, his photography, he did celebrities. I mean, that was his steez. But he didn't only do celebrities. And that's why, to me, he's a fashion hero, because what he did with that column on the street that I just loved ever since I was a little kid is that he took photos of us. And I want to explain what of. Tiff [00:21:15]: The everyday man and woman in New York. Reginald Ferguson [00:21:18]: But also when I say us, I mean everyone. That's emblematic of the rainbow that is New York. Gays brothers and sisters, old ladies up in Harlem, hip hop culture meaning young kids. He took all those elements, all those people who would never normally be photographed in the Times, let alone be in the Times unless it was some terrible instance. And he put forth to the readership, to me, a new breath nice, a boldness. Tiff [00:22:03]: He saw everyone. Reginald Ferguson [00:22:05]: Exactly. Tiff [00:22:06]: He took pictures of everyone. Reginald Ferguson [00:22:09]: Exactly. So that, to me, really, he was a street photographer. He understood that the street was important and what was going on. Clearly, he understood about fashion shows, designer brands. One of his muses, I think, was Anna Winter. But he clearly had his ear and his eyes to the pavement of New York City. Tiff [00:22:35]: He liked seeing style. One of the quotes that I read is like well, not one of the quotes. One of the things I read about him. He wasn't interested in taking pictures of celebrities so much as people who had style. And if the celebrity happened yeah. He wasn't like a paparazzi. He was literally taking these pictures. They didn't even know he was taking these pictures. Tiff [00:23:00]: These were unposed. If they were celebrities. Sometimes he didn't even know they were celebrities. He was attracted to the style that he was seeing. And that's what he snapped a picture of. Only later, famously, he took a picture of Greta Garbo. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:13]: His first photograph is of Garbo. He doesn't even know it's Garbo. Tiff [00:23:17]: He didn't even know it was her. He just loved the cut. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:21]: Yeah. Tiff [00:23:21]: Yeah. And that's why he took the picture. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:23]: That's impressive. Tiff [00:23:26]: I read a little bit about him once. You told me that you were interested in him being a fashion hero. Because I was like, okay, fashion, fashion hero. And he ties in because he photographed fashion. But just like you said, he not only took pictures of celebrities knowingly or unknowingly, but he did take pictures of the everyday man and woman walking on 57th and 7th. That was his perch. They called it 57th. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:53]: Which I didn't know. Not that I would have done anything. I just didn't know. That what I really liked growing up. Even not just growing up, just whenever. The point is, I love when he would have different shots of people, particularly women with the same outfit. Oh, yeah. Tiff [00:24:12]: And it wasn't who wears it best? Reginald Ferguson [00:24:16]: In a way, I think that's how it was set up. And I just thought that was so cool. Tiff [00:24:19]: Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:20]: Seeing, like, four photos of different women wearing the same kit. Tiff [00:24:26]: Yeah, that would be very cool. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:28]: Yeah, I just thought that was slick. And some people were kind of on the peacock tip, but I just really liked it. I just really thought it was cool just seeing regular folks and just always dreaming that one day I would get caught? No. Tiff [00:24:48]: Well, you don't know. You might be. He never sold his photos. He never sold them because he felt like that created more trouble. He found that there was more freedom in not taking money for stuff, because then people can't tell you what to do. So he could use his photos however he wanted to. Reginald Ferguson [00:25:09]: Fashion, I think what he really exemplified is that fashion is not just for the upper echelon, but it's for the proletariat. And he was populist in that vein. And that's why I really like that, because to be a new yorker and to see other new yorkers, I always got a kick out of that. Ever since I was a little kid. My mom would look at it with me again. Another major influence on me, satorally. And I just felt like he really embodied the culture of the city through fashion, through his lens, and really kept it real because he was out on the street. Tiff [00:25:57]: I totally want to go back into archives and see, because I'm sure you can do that. I'm sure I saw this section of the times the few times I did make it through the times in that section, it's a Bmut of a paper on sundays. I found something I found two quotes of his that I really liked. The first one that hit me, he was quoted as saying, I'm not fond of photographing women who borrow dresses. Yeah, I prefer parties where women spend their own money and wear their own dresses. When you spend your own money, you make a different choice. So the reason why this hit me is because of what we're doing here. We're doing a podcast on fashion for the everyday man, and yeah, the everyday man doesn't borrow clothing. Tiff [00:26:49]: I mean, you can there's all these new online things now where you can rent the runway or something else. You can actually rent these clothes and not own them and then return them and have your rotating closet all the time. And if that's what you're into, that's great. But to have a singular style and to go and shop and buy with that style that identifies who you are, that expresses yourself on a regular basis, is important. And yeah, the amount of money you have and the money you spend like back in my day, when I didn't have a lot of money and I thrift store shopped, I had a thrift store style, and it was very unique to me because of the money that I spent on my clothes. And if I was rich today and I go buy really ritzy things, then I would have a different style, but then it would be unique to me on that level. And I really like that. He was referring to a lot of those award shows where all these designers make a dress for you, the models or the actors to wear, and it's not theirs. Tiff [00:27:51]: They're just modeling it. Yeah, they're not living in not it's not theirs. Reginald Ferguson [00:27:57]: Right. I mean, I understand that. I mean, it's funny because you have the annual Hollywood Reporter stylist issue and Stylist of the Year and stuff like that, and clearly I'm not a stylist per se at all. The fashion consultancy really makes sense to me because I give props to stylists. I'm no stylist, but I completely understand what he's saying. I definitely get a kick at what he's saying because he's referring to the golden age in which you didn't have a stylist. You didn't even have a fashion consultant. Tiff [00:28:28]: You pulled your stuff out of your closet. Reginald Ferguson [00:28:30]: Well, you just had individuals. Yes, you had individuals who just had impeccable taste and style. And listen, they weren't a monolith. I'm sure there were a lot of Sloppy Joes and Josephines out there in the Hollywood tip, but I like that just to embody what I'm doing. Right. I don't have any brand ambassadorships yet. Tiff [00:28:52]: They're coming. I can feel it. Reginald Ferguson [00:28:54]: But to his point, buying everything on my own, and I guess I've created I'm very unaware of this, but I guess I've created my own style. Tiff [00:29:05]: Oh, absolutely. How can you be unaware? Yes. Reginald Ferguson [00:29:11]: I think because I take it for granted, just because it's such a genetic thing for me in terms of family influence. Tiff [00:29:17]: It is what you do. It is who you are. It's what you've been. So I'm not necessarily taking it for granted because you're sharp. You're fly every time. Reginald Ferguson [00:29:27]: Thank you. Tiff [00:29:27]: So that's not taking it for just it's part of who you are. It's your style. Reginald Ferguson [00:29:32]: Right. Tiff [00:29:33]: This is what he's talking that's you did you know he was a Harvard dropout? Reginald Ferguson [00:29:37]: Yes, I did. Tiff [00:29:38]: I love that. Okay, and why do you love mean, you know, Harvard this great institution, and this man, this icon of a man dropped out of just I don't know. I don't know. Reginald Ferguson [00:29:50]: Wasn't his thing. Tiff [00:29:51]: It wasn't his thing. Reginald Ferguson [00:29:54]: He was into also. Tiff [00:29:56]: Yeah, he got his start making women's, and he also he biked everywhere. He had a bicycle. That's how he got around New York, is biking everywhere. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:07]: Biking, taking shots. Tiff [00:30:08]: And he got hit twice, once by a truck. Really messed him up. Yeah. And he was in another accident, so he just got another bite and got right back on it. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:17]: And that's what forced him actually to be on staff with the Times. Tiff [00:30:20]: Oh, that's right. Because he needed the insurance. He kept getting hit on his bike. I'm sorry. I know that's not of the circumstance in it. Anyway, I apologize. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:33]: No, no. It's in context. It's a New York story. I never got the chance to even ever see him, much less be seen by him, which clearly is still annoying me. But I want to give a big shout out to my white little brother, Jared Gooding, the owner of Please Space, because he met Bill Cunningham. Tiff [00:30:56]: And what did he say? How was he was an. Affable gentleman. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:58]: Yes. Oh, he gave him some cool ass advice. I can't really remember, but just something about control and money and just doing your own thing, just being independent. I thought he said cool acid. No, he just gave him, like, a pearl of wisdom. Tiff [00:31:18]: And he passed away in 2016, right. Reginald Ferguson [00:31:20]: Recently, yeah, it's been very recent, as a matter of fact. Tiff [00:31:24]: He was working up until he passed away. Reginald Ferguson [00:31:26]: Yes. Tiff [00:31:26]: He had a stroke. Reginald Ferguson [00:31:27]: Yeah. Tiff [00:31:29]: That's amazing. That's amazing. Reginald Ferguson [00:31:32]: He was a living legend, chronicle. Tiff [00:31:35]: And he lived in a small apartment. Reginald Ferguson [00:31:37]: Yeah, he lived in one of those. Carnegie. Yes, Carnegie. Tiff [00:31:42]: Filled with file cabinets of photographs. He had been there most of the time in New York, which I find interesting. Very, very interesting. He's a very simple, simple man with such a great can I read another quote that I read? Reginald Ferguson [00:31:57]: Sure. Tiff [00:31:57]: It's his know, we talk about fashion. Everybody's got to have a fashion philosophy. Reginald Ferguson [00:32:03]: Ours is always be fly. Tiff [00:32:05]: Always be fly is a great one. Cunningham described his philosophy regarding fashion in the documentary film. Bill Cunningham New York. So there's a documentary out there. Everyone take a look at it. Quote, the wider world that perceives fashion as sometimes of frivolity that should be done away with in the face of social upheavals and problems that are enormous. The point is, in fact, that fashion in point of fact, it's the armor to survive the reality of everyday life. I don't think you could do away with it. Tiff [00:32:38]: It would be like doing away with civilization. That is something to think about. Reginald Ferguson [00:32:45]: He really made fashion accessible for people whose voices could not be heard. And that's why Mr. Cunningham is definitely my fashion hero. Tiff [00:32:57]: What a great hero. Claps, claps, claps, claps, claps. Nice. Good one, Reg. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:03]: Thank you. Tiff [00:33:04]: You hit the ball out of the park. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:05]: I try. Tiff [00:33:07]: We'll move on to the next hitting the ball out of the park on this one. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:12]: I must have it. I must have it. Have it. Tiff [00:33:24]: Yes. And what is our I must have it item? Reginald Ferguson [00:33:29]: Harris Tweed. Tiff [00:33:30]: Harris Tweed? Reginald Ferguson [00:33:32]: Yep. Tiff [00:33:33]: I knew this was going to be one of your items one of these days. I was just waiting because I mean, come on. Harris Tweed. Need I say more? Reginald Ferguson [00:33:42]: Well, you don't have to, because I will. Well, all my years and being interested in fashion, two words have always haunted me. TIFF. Tiff [00:33:49]: What? Reginald Ferguson [00:33:49]: Harris Tweed. Tiff [00:33:50]: Why have they haunted you? Reginald Ferguson [00:33:51]: Because it's coveted. Yeah, it's like the Holy Grail to me. Tiff [00:33:55]: It's amazing. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:56]: It's hand woven, dyed and spun in Scotland. That was terrible. Accent in Scotland. Oh, that was much better. In Outer Hebrides. Tiff [00:34:07]: Yeah. Like three or four islands, right? Reginald Ferguson [00:34:09]: Yes. Tiff [00:34:09]: That's and that's it. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:10]: Yes, that's it. Tiff [00:34:11]: Virgin wool from those four islands. And that's it. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:15]: If it doesn't come from that spot, it ain't it doesn't have the orb, the logo. Tiff [00:34:19]: The orb. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:20]: Yeah. Tiff [00:34:21]: Nice. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:22]: They have inspectors from the Harris Tweet authority to check things out. Tiff [00:34:25]: There's a. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:29]: For decades. Tiff [00:34:30]: And this authority is they check things. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:32]: Out, make sure it's the real deal, and they don't play. Recently, though, they got caught up a little bit in some mess because there was a shop selling merch and they had the Union Jack on them on a tag. This is Scottish. It ain't British. Nope, that's a no no. What'd they do, they kind of did like a cease and desist for this store, but it was just like a whole bunch of hubbub because they were like, wait a second, what do you mean? That's like saying, hey, we got this French sparkling wine, but it ain't champagne. Right, but it's from Barbados, so no, you can't do that. No, I just think stuff it was always, for me growing up, just something mystical, to really be honest, because I didn't understand it at first because it's just a fabric. Reginald Ferguson [00:35:27]: But it's not just a fabric. Tiff [00:35:29]: No, it's not. But growing up, when you're young, you're like, it's just a fabric, what's the big deal? But then you get older and you realize that it's handmade. It's handmade from virgin wool, only found in these four or five little islands in Scotland, handmade by different families, different people with their different meals, and they their spin, their yarn, and they would weave it with a different pattern depending on the family who was doing it. Reginald Ferguson [00:35:56]: Oh, I didn't know that. Tiff [00:35:57]: Yeah, back in the day. And then it would all come. Harris Tweed would then gather all of that and that's when they would mark it with the orb to make it theirs. These were either independent weavers or they worked for the Harris Tweed weaving mills. And then they would produce it right there. But the independent ones would bring it in, bring the fabric in, and then it would get stamped and they would get paid. But that's the only two ways that it was made back in the day. And like, when they put together the authority, I think, didn't they make it? They changed it from all these different families creating these different patterns. Tiff [00:36:41]: And they sort of brought it all together under four different roofs that they had oversight so people couldn't make different patterns and do their own thing to bring consistency to the brand. So I feel like I'm not speaking very clearly. It's a way of trademarking. In order to trademark, they had to have some consistency in what they were doing. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:04]: Right, but the mills definitely have distinct patterns and they also have colors. Tiff [00:37:08]: Right, but it's all made in their mills. It's no longer separate families back in the day doing their own thing because a lot of times these stories, depending on the pattern, it tells a story of the family. Isn't that interesting? Reginald Ferguson [00:37:25]: That's very cool, to really be honest. There are a lot of brands that utilize this fabric. And matter of fact, big shout out to another friend of Nyfg Rufat, I know you love Stone Island, and Stone Island recently used some Harris Tweed in their polymorphic ice capsule collection. You probably need to go get you some roof up. And the stuff is just amazing because the fabric I mean, it's appropriate of where it comes from. Right, yes. Before Gore Tex, you had this it's water resistant, it's windproof. I mean, look at the climate out there. Tiff [00:38:06]: Right. You're on an island in Scotland which is a little bit more north of us and constantly raining or foggy or misty and cold. So this was good stuff. Really good stuff. And it felt good. Not itchy? Reginald Ferguson [00:38:21]: Oh, no, no. Tiff [00:38:23]: Yeah, itchy really, really nice. It's because of the weave. It's a very tight weave, so you don't have those little wool fibers. And it's a nice virgin wool, which is not straight up wool. It's the softer downish, kind of there's two different types of wool on a sheep. The outer wool that gets dirty, the coarse, rough stuff. But then that stuff that's closer to the skin. It's a second coat, shall we call it? And that's a little bit more fluffier. Tiff [00:38:53]: And that feels really nice. Reginald Ferguson [00:38:56]: Well, I have to make a confession. Tiff [00:38:57]: Yes. Reginald Ferguson [00:38:58]: I don't know why I'm hoarse now. Tiff [00:39:00]: Well, drink some water. We got some water. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:02]: No, it's fine. I got hooked up with some Harris Tweeds. Tiff [00:39:08]: You did? Reginald Ferguson [00:39:10]: Yes. Big shout out to my white little brother, Jared gooding creator and owner of Please Space. Tiff [00:39:17]: What'd you get? What'd you get? Reginald Ferguson [00:39:18]: He bequeathed me a family jacket. Tiff [00:39:22]: Wow. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:24]: Yep. Tiff [00:39:25]: That's something. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:26]: It is. A beautiful blue herringbone blazer with leather buttons. Tiff [00:39:37]: Oh, wow. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:38]: It was a bigger jacket. And he got it tailored. He's more narrow than I, so I have to breathe in a little bit. Tiff [00:39:48]: Can you get it tailored back? Reginald Ferguson [00:39:49]: It's just fine. No, it's just fine. Tiff [00:39:52]: That's awesome. He gave it to you. That's a good friend. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:56]: No, I know it is. Like, in my closet, like right. Tiff [00:40:02]: You can't bring it out yet. It's not ready. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:04]: No way. Tiff [00:40:07]: January or February. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:08]: Yeah, something like that. But it's beautiful. Tiff [00:40:12]: Wow. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:12]: So I got it. Tiff [00:40:14]: It's a covet piece for sure. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:16]: Yeah, absolutely. So I must have it. I got it now. You get it. Tiff [00:40:23]: Well, as you were saying before about the inspection, the Harris Tweed Authority, I have a little every 50 meters of Harris Tweed are checked by an inspector before being stamped by hand with the orb mark. So they've got this beautiful I'm looking at a picture now. I wish I could explain it, but if you see a Harris Tweed, that's the way you know it's a Harris Tweed. It's a label that has this orb with a cross on top. It looks kind of like from the Catholic Church. Does it? Yes. Do you know about the original? Reginald Ferguson [00:40:59]: I don't know. I don't know the symbolism. Tiff [00:41:01]: I'm looking in my little research here to see if I can find it because I read about it, I glossed over it, and I know it comes from somewhere. But anyway, if you don't see that orb, then you ain't got the real thing. And the original definition attached to the Orb trademark stated that Harris tweed means a tweed hand spun, hand woven, and dyed by the crafters and Qatars in the outer. How do you say that? Hebrides. I should have learned how to say that before I got on this mic. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:37]: H e bride. Tiff [00:41:39]: D-E-S hebrides? So that's the orb trademark right there. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:46]: Cool. Tiff [00:41:47]: All right, so you have a jacket. I'd love a scarf. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:50]: All right, Christmas is coming. Tiff [00:41:52]: I would also love a couch throw. Harris one of those throws on the couch on a toasty evening in front of a fire, drinking my I guess I have to have scotch now, won't I? Reginald Ferguson [00:42:03]: Maybe you should stand in front of. Tiff [00:42:04]: The Scottish council because I'm a bourbon drinker. Good luck with that. Awesome. Good choice. Good choice. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:12]: Thank you. Tiff [00:42:13]: And I think everyone should have a Harris tweed piece in their closet. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:17]: Should be part of your wardrobe. Tiff [00:42:18]: I don't have one, so now I must. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:21]: Good luck. Tiff [00:42:21]: All right, moving on to our next segment, the little tongue twister. So our next segment is the fashion word of the day. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:35]: It fashion word. Tiff [00:42:42]: This is a fun little game show part where we try to challenge each other with a fashion word. Him being from the consultation side and me from the creation and design side. Hopefully we each can stump each other because that's more fun. All right, Reg, do you want to go first or should I go first? Reginald Ferguson [00:43:01]: You could go first. Tiff [00:43:02]: All right, I got to go first. So in this segment, I bring up a word, I say the word, and Reg has to spell it, define it, and use it in a sentence if we don't forget. So my word, and I always pick easy words, I think. Reginald Ferguson [00:43:18]: No, you don't. Tiff [00:43:19]: Okay, this word today warp. Reginald Ferguson [00:43:24]: Warp. W-A-R-P ding ding ding ding ding ding ding. Tiff [00:43:30]: That is correct. Reg, that is how you spell warp. Reginald Ferguson [00:43:33]: Yes, but I am uncertain about the fashion definition of this word. Tiff [00:43:39]: You want to give a stab at it, or you want me to just go ahead and read the definition? Reginald Ferguson [00:43:44]: I know how to use it in a different context. Tiff [00:43:46]: I'll just say it has to do with our must have it item today. Reginald Ferguson [00:43:54]: No, just buz me. Tiff [00:44:00]: Warp. Warp. And weft weft are terms for the two basic components used in weaving to turn thread or yarn into fabric. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:10]: Oh, I never would have gotten it. Tiff [00:44:11]: The lengthwise or longitudinal warp yarns are held stationary in tension on a frame or loom, while the transverse weft, sometimes called woof woof. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:25]: Yeah. Tiff [00:44:26]: Is drawn through and inserted over and under the warp. So when you're weaving something, the warp stays and the weft dives in and out. So a piece of fabric and this isn't weaving anything. A piece of fabric is made up of warp, and weft. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:46]: It is, and I never would have gotten it, so I am so happy to get buzzed. Tiff [00:44:51]: See? Isn't it more interesting? Reginald Ferguson [00:44:53]: Sure, yeah. Tiff [00:44:54]: I'm fine. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:55]: I'm fine if I win. I'm fine. If I lose. I want the listener to benefit. Tiff [00:44:59]: So I guess there's no using it in a sentence because no, I think. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:05]: We tried to make that clear when we thought we zoned. If you get it wrong, you don't use it in a sentence because you don't even know how to use it right. Okay, so let me give you your. Tiff [00:45:15]: You could use it as a time warp. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:17]: Believe me, that's how I was thinking, and I knew I was wrong, so it's okay. Tiff [00:45:23]: That's why I picked the word because won't be the first time. It has several meanings. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:27]: Right. I just could not use in the fashion context. Here is one for you. Drape. Tiff [00:45:34]: Drape. D-R-A-P-E. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:37]: Yes. Tiff [00:45:38]: Drape. I shall design drape. I would define drape as it's the drape. It pertains to fabric. It's about how the fabric falls. When you're working with building a piece of a suit or a dress, you have to take the fabric and drape it on your mannequin to come up with your concept of what you're doing. It's just the way the fabric falls. Reginald Ferguson [00:46:06]: There you go. You knocked it out the park. Feel free to use in a sentence. Tiff [00:46:11]: I will use it in a sentence now. I often dream of this beautiful dress, and the only way I feel I can make it come to fruition is by draping it. Reginald Ferguson [00:46:29]: Well, that was weak. First of all, you used the gerund. Tiff [00:46:38]: I know. I was like, how can I use it? Drape? The drape of that started really well. Reginald Ferguson [00:46:43]: But you really have fumbled. Tiff [00:46:45]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:46:45]: Stumbled. Tiff [00:46:46]: The drape of that dress blew my mind. Reginald Ferguson [00:46:51]: Okay. Tiff [00:46:52]: No, that wasn't a good one. Reginald Ferguson [00:46:53]: That's fine. Tiff [00:46:56]: Why don't you give me a sentence? Reginald Ferguson [00:46:59]: I love the way that cape drapes over your shoulders. Oh, I blew it too. All right. Why don't we just quit while we're yeah, we will. You did it. Tiff [00:47:10]: We did it. Yes, we did it. Congratulations. That was really congratulations, me. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:14]: That was really choppy. Tiff [00:47:15]: And that's the end of our episode. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:17]: Yes. Tiff [00:47:18]: We wound it down nicely. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:19]: We did. Thank you so much for listening. We hope you had fun or down for another one. Please tell your friends about us. Special goes a special goes what is the matter with me? Special shout out goes to our producer search. And I did not realize, ladies and gentlemen, but thank you for TIFF the timekeeper. This is our 10th episode. Tiff [00:47:38]: Number ten. Celebrate. Number ten. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:43]: Oh, boy. Tiff [00:47:43]: And that means we have ten episodes out there for you listeners who are just joining us. There's, like, another ten, because we started with zero. Our episode zero just gives you a beginning, an introduction of who we are and what we want to do with our podcast. That's episode zero. So absolutely listen to that. And then if you want to jump around, it does not have to happen in sequential order. You can listen to number eight, and then go back to number two, and then go on to five, and then hit number ten. You could do it in whatever order, just like I read the New York Times. Tiff [00:48:15]: Any order you want. Reginald Ferguson [00:48:16]: Yes. Well, for podcast that's appropriate. Tiff [00:48:18]: Not for the Times, but please thank you for the listeners who have been with us the whole time. And if you've been along for the ride the whole time, you can celebrate with us for number ten. Reginald Ferguson [00:48:31]: Yes. Check us out on Insta. It's New York fashion geek. If you have any thoughts about the podcast, obviously you can write it in the review section. We love reviews. We love stars. Tiff [00:48:43]: Give us reviews. Give us, give us, give us. Reginald Ferguson [00:48:45]: Yes, but you can email us at podcast@nyfashiongeek.com if you want a free consultation. Want to pick my brain? Just hit me up on the Insta. You could DM me also. Tiff [00:48:57]: You can find you on Instagram too. Did we mention that? Reginald Ferguson [00:49:01]: Yes, we did. Tiff [00:49:01]: New York fashion geek. Yes, lots of beautiful pictures of stuff. Yeah, too kind. I'm on there. See what I did? Reginald Ferguson [00:49:10]: You did. I'm reg. Tiff [00:49:12]: And I'm TIFF. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:13]: See you next time. And remember, always be fly.