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Reg and Tiff talk about Regs’ corduroy suit and Chelsea boots, skin care, Guinness (and its myths), Tiff’s crush on Tyson Beckford and the Oakland Raiders impact on fashion. This episode is a commitment to excellence.


Reginald Ferguson [00:00:01]: Hello, I'm Reg. Tiff [00:00:02]: And I'm TIFF. And we're the Fashion Geeks, trying to make New York and the world. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:06]: Well, New York is the world. Tiff [00:00:07]: A little flyer, one outfit and podcast at a time. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:14]: Who. Everyone, welcome to the ride. We are the fashion geeks. Tiff [00:00:18]: Hi. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:19]: Hi, I'm Reg. Tiff [00:00:21]: And I'm TIFF. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:23]: Unbeknownst to the listeners is our late night edition. Tiff [00:00:26]: Very late, like we are past happy hour. I was preparing for a happy hour edition. I brought the beverages and everything, but Reg was working today. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:37]: Yes, I had a very long day. I was at a shoot today over in Astoria. Tiff [00:00:44]: A shoot? Reg? Reginald Ferguson [00:00:46]: Yes. Tiff [00:00:46]: Do our listeners know about this other side of you? Reginald Ferguson [00:00:50]: Well, we don't have to say it's. Tiff [00:00:51]: Another side or another facet of the diamond that is you. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:56]: Oh, that's very kind. Let's just say that I was fortunate enough to be at a shoot for Netflix today for 12 hours. Tiff [00:01:06]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:07]: My call time was seven in the morning and just finished a little bit. Just finished a little bit. That's why I'm a little tongue tied, everybody. I'm really sorry. Tiffany rescued me and scooped me up and we went from one car to then a car service. And now here we are at the studio and I'm going to get my second win, y'all, because I'm really happy to be here. I'm really happy to break things down, have all you listen. But to the new listeners, let me tell you who I am. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:36]: My name is Reg Ferguson. I am the creator of New York fashion geek. New York fashion geek is a fashion consultancy. We focus on helping men being the best they can be. Tiff [00:01:46]: The everyday man. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:47]: Exactly. Tiff [00:01:48]: Not just any man, but the everyday man. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:50]: Absolutely. The proletariat. Essentially, we want to improve your look. We start from closet inventory to personal shopping and everything in between. Consider me your personal trainer for fashion. Tiff [00:02:02]: I love that line. I say it every time. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:04]: Thank you. Tiff [00:02:04]: I think it's just perfect. You need to trademark that. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:08]: Seriously, you got to work on something. Tiff [00:02:09]: Yeah, it's already out there. You got to do it now. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:11]: I appreciate it. Tiff [00:02:12]: So I am TIFF, fashion geek number two. What I bring to the table. I used to design costumes and build costumes. So I work with fabric, I work with form and fit and structure. And I'm the back end of fashion, shall we say. So I have an appreciation from that point of view. Reg does fashion for the everyday man. I would say the man category would be my I have little authority on that. Tiff [00:02:40]: So I'm kind of learning from you and aspiring to be as knowledgeable as you about men's fashion at the same time as sort of helping you with your business and chatting with you about it so that the everyday man could be informed and know what things mean and what they need and what they should have. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:00]: Certainly. Tiff [00:03:01]: So that's what I bring to the table and talk about bringing to the table. Let's talk about what you're wearing right now, because, yo, you're rocking the corduroy. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:11]: I am rocking a corduroy and a silk knit tie. Tiff [00:03:17]: Beautiful. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:18]: Thank you. Tiff [00:03:19]: Square on the bottom. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:21]: Yeah, square bottom with three horizontal off white stripes. This is a black silk tie with three stripes at the bottom of the tie. Tiff [00:03:32]: Yeah, it looks very nice. And it's a focal point for the tie. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:36]: Yes. Agreed. Agreed. Tiff [00:03:38]: Very nice. And the sheen from the silk is a very nice it complements the sheen because it's a wide whale corduroy. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:47]: I can't say this. Wow. Tiff [00:03:49]: I can't say super wide, but it is definitely wider than I've seen finer whales. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:54]: Okay, that's fair. Tiff [00:03:54]: But it looks very nice. Would you call that a smoky color? Reginald Ferguson [00:03:58]: I say it's a charcoal gray. Tiff [00:04:00]: Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:04:01]: Thank you very much. And the tie is black with the off white stripes at the bottom of the tie, coordinated with a pale purple dress shirt. Nice straight points. Tiff [00:04:16]: The only thing you're missing, Reg, I don't know. Reginald Ferguson [00:04:19]: Because you're saying I'm missing something. We should talk about my footwear. Oh, my Chelsea boots. Tiff [00:04:25]: My new Chelsea boots. Reginald Ferguson [00:04:27]: Well, you know, at the studio, we. Tiff [00:04:30]: Take our shoes off. Here. Reginald Ferguson [00:04:32]: We do. Tiff [00:04:33]: We're relaxed, keep the floors nice too. Reginald Ferguson [00:04:37]: Our producer seems to be very happy about that. Tiff [00:04:40]: He likes a clean floor, and I like a man who likes a clean floor. Reg, can we talk about the pocket square that's not in your pocket? Do you have a pocket? Is there? No. Reginald Ferguson [00:04:51]: Well, if you look at the suit let me put my glasses yeah, you need to put your spectacles on. Tiff [00:04:57]: And there are new ones too. Oh, what happened? There's no pocket. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:03]: That's right. Tiff [00:05:04]: So a suit jacket can have no pocket. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:07]: Absolutely. Tiff [00:05:08]: Interesting. That's rare. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:10]: I'm rare. Tiff [00:05:11]: Yeah, you are. All right, there's another thing we need to talk about. Your makeup looks good. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:20]: I think we need to move on. Tiff [00:05:24]: They did a great job. They really did a good job. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:28]: I will just say this as I try to skirt this observation. Tiff [00:05:33]: I mean, he's wearing makeup, not as an everyday thing to you. Everyday guys, don't get scared. You're not required to wear makeup. He was on a shoot today, and as you know, you get a little made up, so you don't shine on little lights. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:47]: I was helping out a shoot. My t zone is correct. Tiff [00:05:51]: Oh, yeah. And you got a glow, not a shine. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:54]: Oh, thank you. I actually was told, though, big shout out to the hair and makeup lady, Charisma. Very nice, sister. I was told that from this point on, and I have to really remember it this evening after we do our podcast, that I'm to exfoliate nightly. Tiff [00:06:13]: Everybody should. Let's talk about that. That is very important. Men don't exfoliate. I mean, if you think about it now, when you shave where you shave, you exfoliate. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:24]: You exfoliate. Tiff [00:06:24]: But the skin you neglect. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:27]: I'm not neglecting. I have beautiful black skin. I didn't feel I needed to exfoliate. Tiff [00:06:32]: Everyone needs. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:33]: But I've been told by Charisma, who is also African American. Tiff [00:06:37]: Okay, I got that. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:39]: My black ass needs to exfoliate followed by moisturizing. Tiff [00:06:43]: Yes. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:43]: Lucky for me, I have those products in my crib. Keels. Tiff [00:06:50]: Good stuff. Especially their line for men. I really like it, this stuff. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:54]: Overall. I mean, full disclosure I was a kills baby. Tiff [00:06:58]: Oh, okay. They have been around since 1830. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:03]: Yes. My mom was not, though. Tiff [00:07:07]: Wait, what? Reginald Ferguson [00:07:08]: Well, no, you gave this time check. As I was saying, that was a Kills baby. Then you're like I'm like, what are you trying to say about either me or my mama? But when I was a wee little sprout, my mom I grew up in the West Village and Keels, the original Keels is in the East Village. So we would go over there. I have very fond memories. There's some old photos if you go to that original store is that store not open anymore? No, it's open. Tiff [00:07:39]: Oh, OK. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:40]: Absolutely. Tiff [00:07:40]: I used to love that store. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:42]: My boy actually lives on that block. Big shout out to Scotty. Scott, Scotty, scott. Scott Waldman and his wife Maggie. Tiff [00:07:50]: Hi Maggie. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:51]: So I think I even told him I used to go to that store, but there's some old vintage photos. I guess I'm part of that era now. That place was like a chemistry lab. Tiff [00:08:01]: It was an apothecary. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:03]: Yes, exactly. And I remember coming in and seeing test tubes and stuff in the back. Tiff [00:08:10]: Because they were doing their skincare line. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:12]: They were doing everything. My mom got herbs from Keels back in the day. I would totally remember that. And I've seen some of those photos and I kind of broke down because I remember these people from when I was a wee little kid. Tiff [00:08:26]: Nice. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:28]: So I love that place. And I want to give a big shout out. If I recall correctly, if we need to fact check, we have our producer. A big shout out to Revlon because Revlon bought that brand and essentially has been hands off. Tiff [00:08:41]: Oh, good. I did not know Revlon bought them. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:44]: Yes, bought them years ago. Tiff [00:08:45]: Packaging has changed. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:47]: Packaging smackaging. But outside, no, it's not. Tiff [00:08:50]: The more outside, you don't have absolutely. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:53]: You can go online Bloomingdale. Tiff [00:08:56]: It's in the big department stores that are still in existence. Reginald Ferguson [00:09:00]: But I feel they really let that family do their thing, which is nice. So the point is, I have products. Tiff [00:09:07]: You just don't use them. Reginald Ferguson [00:09:09]: I only use them in certain cases. Tiff [00:09:12]: Well, reg. And this should be of note to all you gentlemen who have products, if you don't use them, they expire. And trust me, when those products expire, you should not use them on your face. Toss them. It's kind of like the same goes with women in makeup. Once it expires it's no good. The oils go rancid. Their essences are no longer there. Tiff [00:09:31]: They're gone. They're just really worthless. So if you've got this product, use it. Reginald Ferguson [00:09:37]: I do. I want to be specific. I have a scrub, a facial scrub. So essentially that means ding ding, ding ding. Tiff [00:09:44]: You got to scrub your face? Reginald Ferguson [00:09:45]: No, it means it's an exfoliant that I have in my medicine cabinet. But I only use that scrub before shaving because it gives me a closer shave. Why are you making a face? There's no ouch. What ouch? What do you mean? Tiff [00:09:59]: I have sensitive skin. I was just thinking of me, if I scrub my face and then I. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:04]: Go to shave, I'm a black male. Tiff [00:10:05]: I'll be all red in the face. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:07]: No, well, I won't be red. Tiff [00:10:08]: I'm a white Irish kind of woman. I get rashy. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:14]: My point is, I have the scrub, so this means that I can now start utilizing it good nightly. And I have moisturizer because she said I should moisturize. Tiff [00:10:24]: After you scrub, you should always moisturize. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:27]: So I'm going to start to incorporate this as a habit. Well, don't say good job. I haven't done it yet. I just got this information a few hours ago. Tiff [00:10:34]: Well, I say good job because I'm encouraging you. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:37]: Well, I have to encourage myself to go back to Keels because I'm running low on that scrub. I know that for a fact. And they love to give out samples. Tiff [00:10:45]: Oh, every time you shop there, they don't give just one sample? No, I went there. I got, like, a bunch. I think I got more samples than what I bought the last time. I was absolutely I was like, okay, yeah, that's good. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:57]: I always say no. I'm like and they forced up on me. Tiff [00:11:00]: Yeah. When am I going to use all these samples? Reginald Ferguson [00:11:02]: But here's the point. Now when I go, I'll get the moisturizer as a sample. Tiff [00:11:06]: Ha. There you go. Awesome. Reginald Ferguson [00:11:08]: I win. Tiff [00:11:09]: Boom. While we spend a lot of time on that, let's move on. Reginald Ferguson [00:11:11]: It's important. Tiff [00:11:13]: It is. Because you know what? The everyday man fashion doesn't just stop with what he wears. Reginald Ferguson [00:11:20]: No. Skincare is part of it. Tiff [00:11:22]: Self care skincare. And skincare is a part of self care. We're talking about working out. We're talking about eating right. Eating right. We're drinking right. Reginald Ferguson [00:11:34]: I'm drinking right. Tiff [00:11:36]: Cheers. Cheers to our delayed happy hour. We got the Guinness up in the house. Very nice. Very nice. So, yeah, Guinness is good for you. Did you know that? Reginald Ferguson [00:11:46]: Yes, I did. Tiff [00:11:47]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:11:49]: Yes. Tiff [00:11:50]: And I also heard a legend that it's very iron rich that the old ladies in Ireland would drink a Guinness a day. Reginald Ferguson [00:11:57]: Yeah, I think that is correct, but I think that is benefiting legend. Tiff [00:12:03]: Benefiting the legend. Reginald Ferguson [00:12:04]: Yeah, about the iron stuff. Tiff [00:12:06]: You don't think it's iron rich? Damn. That's why I drink. Reginald Ferguson [00:12:11]: Wait, wait. Our producer is going to do something? Our producer search is going to do a search. Tiff [00:12:16]: All right, so while search is doing a search, can I just tell you that I was extremely excited to see that Tyson Beckford liked our post? Our post about our last episode with polo Ralph Lauren. Reginald Ferguson [00:12:32]: Yes. Hype hype can you find I was just trying to help you not be embarrassed, dang. Tiff [00:12:47]: Now I got to find me something else to drink. Reginald Ferguson [00:12:48]: Urban. Well, I don't know if it's urban legend, but it's a legend. Tiff [00:12:54]: Just a legend. Reginald Ferguson [00:12:55]: Country legend. Tiff [00:12:55]: Just a legend to make you drink more guinness. Reginald Ferguson [00:12:57]: But let's talk about your Tyson Beckford. Tiff [00:13:00]: Tyson Beckford. Tyson Beckford. Reginald Ferguson [00:13:01]: Oh, my gosh. Yes. As new listeners may not know, we did as a fashion hero, polo Ralph Lauren and Tyson Beckford, one of the more notable models of polo ralph. Tiff [00:13:14]: And we mentioned him. We talked about how he helped bring the polo brand into a wider market. Reginald Ferguson [00:13:19]: Absolutely. Tiff [00:13:21]: And, yes, he liked our post. Your post on New York fashion geek about the episode? Reginald Ferguson [00:13:26]: Yes, on my insta. Please check us out on insta. New York fashion geek, all spelled out. Tiff [00:13:33]: There you go. You can be in the same stratosphere as Tyson Beckford liking us. Reginald Ferguson [00:13:40]: Tiffany, I think you should DM Mr. Beckford and see what am I going to say? Tiff [00:13:45]: Hi, Tyson. Reginald Ferguson [00:13:46]: Thank you so much. Tiff [00:13:47]: You're the best polo model ever. Reginald Ferguson [00:13:49]: Thank you so much for liking our post. And would you please would you like. Tiff [00:13:54]: To be a guest host? Reginald Ferguson [00:13:56]: Come on as a guest. Tiff [00:13:58]: Come on. Reginald Ferguson [00:13:59]: Come on as a guest. Tiff [00:14:00]: Well, we could also give him the steering wheel and let him drive. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:03]: They can come on as a guest. Tiff [00:14:04]: All right, no steering wheel. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:06]: I'm a host. You're a co host. Okay, geek number one. Geek number two. Tiff [00:14:10]: All right, we can make him honorary. Geek number three. I'm sure he has a lot to give to the fashion I'm sure he. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:16]: Has a lot to give. And maybe he'll help out in the podcast, too. Tiff [00:14:21]: That was terrible. That was bad. Okay, drink again. Okay, so that's one of the most exciting things that happened. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:28]: But all I can see you're red. Well, it's warm in no, no, it's Tyson Beckford. That is the reaction. Tiff [00:14:36]: He is a beautiful man. I'm sorry. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:38]: Yes, he's a handsome man. Tiff [00:14:39]: Oh, he's beautiful. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:40]: I judge men. He's no problem. Tiff [00:14:42]: Beautiful. And he dresses well, and he shop fly. So he is definitely a good example of what we talk about. He's certainly not the everyday man. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:54]: No, but he's a model. Tiff [00:14:57]: He's a model, but he's fly. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:00]: Right. Different strategies. Tiff [00:15:03]: But something else happened, too, after our last episode. Last week, we got a subscriber who helped us out. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:11]: Oh, my man. James from JJI Textiles, Manchester. Tiff [00:15:17]: JJ. JJ. Textiles. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:19]: Yeah, JJ textiles. What did I say? Tiff [00:15:20]: JJI. You said, yeah, the Guinness is getting to you. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:24]: No, that is not true. The fatigue has to come me, though. Tiff [00:15:28]: But I'm rallying 12 hours later. Yeah, yes, go ahead. Sorry. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:34]: Well, we did a podcast recently. Our I must have it item was Harris Tweed. Tiff [00:15:43]: And I don't have it, but I must have it one day. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:46]: And I do have it, and I was front like, I didn't but I didn't have it for we were we were describing the source. Tiff [00:15:57]: Right. So this textile, the history of it, it goes way back to the history in Scotland, these little archipelago islands off of Scotland's coast. And these islands have a name. They're the outer and the inner. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:15]: I thought it was Hebrides hebrides. Tiff [00:16:20]: And I was all I was like, Hebrides, hebrides, whatever. Come to find out, this gentleman, out of nowhere, Manchester, England, listened to our podcast and said the actual pronunciation is Hebrides hebrides. So thank you. Thank you, James. Appreciate that. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:41]: Don't want to be embarrassed when I'm in the UK. Tiff [00:16:43]: So if any of you other folks out there have any kind of corrections for us, please don't be shy, let us know. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:49]: Hit us up at Tiff [00:16:54]: Because we're not perfect. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:56]: No, but we're fly. Tiff [00:16:58]: There we go. All right. I think that is a perfect entree into our next section. Our next section called Fashion Heroes. Reginald Ferguson [00:17:12]: Fashion. Fashion Heroes. Tiff [00:17:17]: So every episode, we either have a fashion hero that we talk about or we have a guest. So tonight we have a fashion hero. And I don't understand this at all. Reginald Ferguson [00:17:29]: Well, I'll be breaking it down so you can understand it, because you're going to have to. Tiff [00:17:33]: Ridge, who is our fashion hero? Reginald Ferguson [00:17:34]: The Oakland Raiders. Tiff [00:17:36]: Yes. Reginald Ferguson [00:17:37]: What? Yes. Tiff [00:17:38]: They're a football team. Reginald Ferguson [00:17:40]: I know that. And you know that, too. That's great. Tiff [00:17:45]: You're getting more obtuse. Reginald Ferguson [00:17:48]: No, I'm relating to the proletariat. Tiff [00:17:51]: All right. I don't know how a football team is a fashion hero, especially the Raiders. Reginald Ferguson [00:17:55]: I will explain. Tiff [00:17:56]: Can I put it out there that I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan? Reginald Ferguson [00:17:59]: Thank you. Our producer has given me the green light. He understands, and I know he understands, and he's going to explain why he doesn't have to do it right now, but he knows. He literally knows. I don't want to play him out. He knows. Tiff [00:18:13]: All right. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:18]: Yeah. Feel free to chime in on this one, too. You don't have to do the polo thing, but you have some skin in the game here. Hold on. Tiff [00:18:26]: Can we just say that I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan? Reginald Ferguson [00:18:29]: You already said that. Tiff [00:18:30]: I'm going to say it again. I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:32]: Oh, God. Tiff [00:18:33]: And we hate the Raiders. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:37]: I don't remember us having some incredible rivalry wow. As a Raider fan since childhood, in. Tiff [00:18:43]: The 70s, growing up the Raiders. Yes. The Cowboys hated the Raiders. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:52]: I think everybody hates the Cowboys. Tiff [00:18:54]: I think everybody hated the Raiders, because back in that day, back in the late 70s, when they played early 80s, they were killing people. They were on the field. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:02]: They were amazing. Tiff [00:19:03]: They were killing people. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:04]: Why can't we be like that again. Tiff [00:19:07]: If you played against the Raiders, you absolutely had at least three or four players on the injured list at the end of that game. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:13]: Wow. Tiff [00:19:13]: I mean, that was football. It was not gentlemen's game. It was not. And Tom Landry would always comment on how the gentleman's game is gone. Oakland Raiders north. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:26]: Carolinian, let me just put repping the Cowboys. Tiff [00:19:29]: I have to say, when you said Oakland Raiders, I was like, what the hell? Sorry, don't mean to curse. So I Google searched it. I'm like fashion. Oakland Raiders is a fashion hero. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:38]: Absolutely. Tiff [00:19:39]: You know what? I found something. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:41]: And what'd you find? Tiff [00:19:42]: I actually found a video of Oakland Raider Jared Cook talking about the fashion of his team players. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:54]: Oh. Tiff [00:19:56]: I was like, what? How is this possible? And it was a pretty good video. It's actually on the website for Oakland Raiders. So check it out. It's pretty funny. It was posted November 3. So, anyway, I found something. Reginald Ferguson [00:20:12]: Well, let me explain, because you seem to be in the dark, is in black and silver. Tiff [00:20:19]: You are too much. Reginald Ferguson [00:20:20]: I'm a big football fan. Unfortunately, due to the blatant racism displayed by the NFL in regards to Colin Kaepernick, I'm no longer watching the games. Tiff [00:20:30]: Oh, you are protesting. Reginald Ferguson [00:20:32]: Yeah. This is my second season. Yeah. I'm out. Tiff [00:20:34]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:20:34]: I'm out. However, I still have my team, and they're my favorite team, and they're the Oakland Raiders. Tiff [00:20:43]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:20:43]: When you're a little kid, there are a lot of ways you choose your team. Right. The first is by your family and the uniform. Tiff [00:20:51]: The colors of the yeah, yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:20:53]: All the colors of the uniform. Tiff [00:20:54]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:20:54]: Yes. You beat me. Tiff [00:20:56]: Oh, really? That was one of the ways you chose? Absolutely. Okay. Because I was always made fun of. Because I'm like I like the colors. Reginald Ferguson [00:21:03]: Of the no, when I was a little kid, I saw those colors. Tiff [00:21:11]: You liked them? Reginald Ferguson [00:21:12]: I lost my mind. Black and silver. Clearly. Even as a Yee sprout, I was a fashion geek. Tiff [00:21:20]: Wow. Reginald Ferguson [00:21:21]: And essentially, being a New Yorker, my family pretty much liked the jets. Tiff [00:21:27]: Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:21:28]: So what? But it wasn't moving me. But the silver and black, I was struck. Tiff [00:21:38]: They were at first sight, they were a presence. That is I can't admit that. Reginald Ferguson [00:21:42]: Yeah. But outside of just the incredible significance of the team back in the day, it was a stretch of time. They had the best winning percentage of every major team sport. That was a long time ago. Tiff [00:21:58]: Yeah. Right now, they're not doing so well. Reginald Ferguson [00:22:00]: But again, it started with the colors. But then my love went way beyond that. And you've already hinted at it. The team's toughness and their position as Rebels, I mean, that added to the colors. It was accentuated by the colors, and they created an image. And what is fashion if not image? Tiff [00:22:26]: Yeah. Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:22:27]: And it was burnished by their play on the field, like you said. I mean, they were rough, and I like that. I was attracted by that. There were misfits, miscast. And that appealed to me. Not that I feel that I'm one of those people. I don't think so at all. I think I fit solely into the mainstream. Reginald Ferguson [00:22:45]: But it attracted me as a kid, and I love those freaking colors. The team the colors had an impact, though, way beyond sports. And I know that's why earlier, Search was not in his head. And he'll chime in when he wants to chime. You know, I don't want people just saying, I saw it, nodding his head. But just ask NWA. Thank you, Ice T. NWA. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:13]: They repped from head to toe, silver and black. And since he's being coy, I'm just going to break him down. Search, don't you have some, like, Halloween, some type of I've seen a photo. You're not necessarily breaking me down as much as building me up and digging me up there. I believe I have seen a photo of you. But again, back to the fact that you're not breaking me down. Tiff [00:23:44]: Come on, let's get to it. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:46]: Yeah. Again, it's not like you're caught. Like, I'm agreeing with you. Okay, so I'm agreeing with your edge, but he's like, you're not agreeing with me. I didn't say that anyway. Yes, absolutely. You're right. Fucking the raiders. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:08]: If you're talking about a West Coast rapper from the early 90s, even from La. The Oakland Raiders was that you saw Raiders hat and you knew they were gone some shit. Hell yeah. Like NWA. And I've never been the biggest fan of NWA. At all. I can't even co sign their name. But they were a hard group, and the Raiders were a hard team. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:33]: It was a marriage of equals, and I love that. I think the monochrome is a bold statement. No neon, no rainbow stripes. Tiff [00:24:44]: Oh, what's up with the neon these days? I can't stand it. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:48]: Oh, well, first of all, the Thursday night uniforms, ridiculous. Tiff [00:24:52]: They look like highlighters on the field. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:54]: Yuck. Tiff [00:24:54]: Walking highlighters. I can't take them seriously. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:57]: But to search his point, NWA's influence, any West Coast rapper, just the overall hip hop culture. Let the raiders merchandise POW. Go off the roof in terms of revenue okay. To $3 billion. Tiff [00:25:13]: There's where the fashion comes in, the branded items. Yeah. If it had Raiders on it, it was off the shelves. Reginald Ferguson [00:25:22]: Absolutely. Tiff [00:25:22]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:25:23]: But the Raiders have to thank us, because, again, this is what we do. Tiff [00:25:35]: Y'all got bigger closets. I can absolutely attest to that. Reginald Ferguson [00:25:39]: We are the tastemakers. Tiff [00:25:41]: You guys are the buyers. Reginald Ferguson [00:25:42]: And if we're thinking about the West Coast, I want to be extremely clear. It's not specific to African Americans. It's African Americans. It's chicanos. So they embodied those colors and the logos, everything. Okay, that's significant. I have a cap, two jerseys, two T shirts, a sweatshirt, and a pair of sweatpants. Tiff [00:26:13]: I didn't know you wore anything other than a suit or jacket and slacks or a nice sweater and slacks. You wear jerseys? Reginald Ferguson [00:26:22]: If I have been invited to a friend's house to watch game, I'm known to adorn a jersey. Tiff [00:26:30]: Oh, wow. I got to say, that is probably the most everyday man part of you. I've not even witnessed it that I've ever heard. Reginald Ferguson [00:26:40]: But I want to be clear, like, I'm fly when I have it on. Tiff [00:26:44]: Oh, okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:26:45]: Yeah. Tiff [00:26:45]: Oh, you don't wear just the basic jeans and sneakers? Reginald Ferguson [00:26:49]: Well, even if I wore dungarees and sneakers, I'm slick dungarees. That's right. Old school term. Tiff [00:26:55]: All right. Reginald Ferguson [00:26:56]: Big up to my grandpa. Tiff [00:26:58]: Hi, Grandpa. Reginald Ferguson [00:26:59]: So, yeah, I have all that merch. Tiff [00:27:02]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:27:02]: I got a Charles Woodson jersey. Yeah, man, please. I'll always be silver and black, and I'll always be fly. Repping it. Go Raiders, though. I hate what you're doing to me, John Gruden. I hate you. I hate you. Tiff [00:27:19]: Can we be done with this now? Are we done? Reginald Ferguson [00:27:22]: Fine. Cowboys suck. Tiff [00:27:25]: No, they don't. Reginald Ferguson [00:27:26]: All right, let's move on. Tiff [00:27:28]: Six to five. Yo. That's what they are right now. All right, moving on. Reginald Ferguson [00:27:34]: Go Raiders. Tiff [00:27:35]: You got to get that last word in, don't you? All right, how about this? We move on to our next segment. The next segment on Tap is I must have it. Reginald Ferguson [00:27:53]: I must have it, have it, have it. Tiff [00:27:58]: I love this. I love this section because half the time I don't have it, but I fall right in there with the oh, yeah, that might be an I must have it. And I got to tell you, this fell right into my experience, actually, in the past 1015 years. So what is the I must have it fashion item? Reginald Ferguson [00:28:22]: Something, anything monogrammed. Tiff [00:28:26]: Monogrammed? Reginald Ferguson [00:28:27]: I don't have anything monogrammed. Tiff [00:28:29]: That's something with your initials on it. Monogrammed. Reginald Ferguson [00:28:32]: Yes. Tiff [00:28:33]: Nice. All right. Reginald Ferguson [00:28:35]: It would be if I had it. Tiff [00:28:37]: So this gives a wide berth. So it's not one little item? No. So the everyday man could absolutely acquire this monogramming today is probably at its most affordable than it's ever been. Reginald Ferguson [00:28:50]: Really? Tiff [00:28:51]: Oh, I would absolutely say that, yes. Everybody monograms. It's easy to do. It used to be back in the day, monogramming was a hand stitched thing, but now with all the machines, all the fancy machines, you just hit a button and you get a monogram on something in a matter of five minutes. Reginald Ferguson [00:29:09]: Really? Tiff [00:29:10]: Yeah. The quality depends, and I'm just talking fabric stuff. You can monogram anything from what? Paper, glass, metal? You can monogram anything. Reginald Ferguson [00:29:23]: Today I want to monogram fashion items. Tiff [00:29:26]: So let's talk about what monogramming is for perhaps those who don't know what it is. I have a definition. You want me to say what it is? Reginald Ferguson [00:29:34]: Break it down. Tiff [00:29:35]: It's a design composed of one or more letters, typically the initials of a name used as an identifying mark. That is the definition. And most people know what monograms are. Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:29:52]: But maybe we have a few listeners who don't. Tiff [00:29:54]: Right. Reginald Ferguson [00:29:54]: So I want to enrich them. Tiff [00:29:56]: And monogramming goes way, way back. And it wasn't all about monogramming fabric or anything like that back in the day. It was a part of, I guess, in the earliest times, what I found in the Middle Ages, monogram was a way to claim your art. So if you were an artist, really, you would monogram your art. So that would be your art. And artists still do that. They put their name on it. Some of them just do their I. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:20]: Was about to say, what about the whole signature? So not the whole signature. Tiff [00:30:24]: Monogramming, really, just to be a monogram. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:26]: I did not know that. Tiff [00:30:27]: And it grew. Monogramming became a practice of the Romans way back, starting with the Romans as monogramming coins so that they were taking charge or control of that commerce. So the Romans controlled this area right here. Then they would put out the coin with their monogram on it. So that would be the Roman Empire. And I even have here the Charlemagne when he created Charlemagne. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:58]: I don't think that's the one she's referencing. Tiff [00:31:00]: Yeah, I don't know which one you're talking about. Reginald Ferguson [00:31:03]: Lord Charlemagne. Tiff [00:31:07]: Way back in the day. Charlemagne. Reginald Ferguson [00:31:09]: Yes, Lord Charlemagne. Tiff [00:31:11]: He was credited to using the monogram on all kinds of goods to represent his power and authority over an area that he conquered. So as these great kings would conquer an area, they would mint coins with their monograms on it to say, yo, this is my space. Reginald Ferguson [00:31:27]: Pay to Caesar. Tiff [00:31:29]: That's right. And then it moved into something that the royalty would use, and the military to show their power and position of stature by putting their initials on everything. And even to today, we see patches on military uniforms or police and FDNY, that has certain monograms on it as well. But it also sort of monogramming has been most well, I shouldn't say recently, it's moved into and the article I am referencing from, funny enough, is from, and it's like monogram madness, the history of this Southern staple. So, yeah, the south, it's like monograms threw up on everything, really? Oh, yeah. It's a sign of stature. If you have an item that's monogrammed, like, you have an Oxford Polo and it has your initials on it, right, that says something. Or you have a purse back in the day to have your monogram on it, that says something. Tiff [00:32:34]: It's a sign of stature. You have monogram sheets, you have monogram know, that's a thing in the south, it's huge. And I do have a monogrammed item. Reginald Ferguson [00:32:45]: Because you're from the south, and I. Tiff [00:32:47]: Didn'T even know it was a must have item. One Christmas, my mother gave me several different presents, but the first present she had me open was this book that had a list of 50 basic must have items every woman should have. And one of the. Items was a monogrammed item. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:04]: Nice. Tiff [00:33:04]: So she got me an Ll. Bean tote with my nickel. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:09]: Look at you. Are you a Southern preppy? Well, unfortunately, Miss Pretty and Pink. Tiff [00:33:18]: It's in the shed. Antiquing in the shed with firewood in it. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:23]: Well, that's appropriate. It's an ll. Bean tote. Tiff [00:33:27]: That shit is strong. I mean, I put in the washer. It's like sail tent material. It's thick. I'm like, oh, maybe I shouldn't have washed it, but my initials are still on it. I'm monogrammed. So wow. That's what I have. Tiff [00:33:41]: I have no, no, not even a Louis Vuitton bag? Reginald Ferguson [00:33:48]: Well, I'm not a Louis V guy. Let me be clear. Tiff [00:33:51]: Well, because that's how it's evolved now in fashion, is all of these big. Reginald Ferguson [00:33:55]: Fashion nothing against Louis V. I'm sorry. Tiff [00:33:57]: They have all of their monograms kicking. You got Louis V, you got Yves Saint Laurent, you've got but that's logos. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:05]: I'm talking about monogram meaning you have a name, you have a shirt. If you're a man, you could have the monogram on your breast pocket, on your cuff, on the bottom of your shirt. Tiff [00:34:19]: I have never what about labels? You put your Sharpie on your labels. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:25]: No, that's not a monogram. Tiff [00:34:26]: No. Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:30]: That's you going away to camp. Tiff [00:34:34]: Okay, let's be clear. Reginald Ferguson [00:34:35]: No, let me explain, because I wasn't going to reveal this, but actually, in going through my family's stuff recently, I found, which I really cherish and I don't know what I'm going to do with, but I found, from growing up, my late grandmother's name tags for me. Tiff [00:34:54]: For going away in camp. She put in all your clothes and just life overall, she had to put a name tag on you so she. Reginald Ferguson [00:35:01]: Couldn'T lose you, and I found a whole envelope of them. Tiff [00:35:08]: Oh, wow. Reginald Ferguson [00:35:09]: And that was the closest thing ever to having a monogram and a cleo. That is not and I loved that. Matter of fact, in my house, outside of this discovery, I have an old school, which I think Search would appreciate because it has a pole Ralph Lauren influence because it was just of the era. I have a Banana Republic top zipper top from, let's say, the 80s or 90s. Tiff [00:35:36]: Wow, that's cool. Reginald Ferguson [00:35:38]: And the material was ripping away from the zipper, and I brought it to my grandma, who my late grandmother was a seamstress. I was like, Grandma, I need help. And she took one of my old school name tags and basted so the material wouldn't fray from the zipper. Tiff [00:36:04]: Nice. So you did have a monogram. Reginald Ferguson [00:36:06]: It's not a monogram. It's a name tag. I'm very clear about what I have, and they mean a lot to me. And to discover a whole envelope of them, I don't even know what I'm going to do with them. Tiff [00:36:18]: Do you keep them? Reginald Ferguson [00:36:20]: Well, it's my name, so, yes, I'll keep them. Tiff [00:36:23]: You keep them in a chest of some kind? Like a cedar chest? That's why we Southern people keep things. Reginald Ferguson [00:36:27]: In a cedar you know I have a cedar chest. Tiff [00:36:30]: I didn't know that. Reginald Ferguson [00:36:33]: Tiffany, you oh, that's right. You don't know that. Tiff [00:36:37]: I don't. Reginald Ferguson [00:36:38]: Yes, I'm about to. Tiff [00:36:39]: Mason Dixon line had cedar chest. Reginald Ferguson [00:36:41]: Well, my late grandmother did, and I am going to sell and if anyone is interested, they could hit me up. I haven't posted it yet, but I'm going to sell a steamer trunk that is cedar lined. Tiff [00:36:53]: Oh, okay. Nice. Somebody better snatch that up. It's going to be worth Wicker money. Reginald Ferguson [00:36:58]: Yeah, it's wicker, and I've priced around. I'm not going cheap on this. Tiff [00:37:03]: You all, okay. Well, there goes half of our I. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:07]: Don'T want to get jacked. I want market value. Tiff [00:37:10]: Yeah, you want to get what it's worth. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:12]: But let's get to the monogram. Tiff [00:37:14]: Yeah. At least for me. It's initials. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:16]: Yes, it's initials. Tiff [00:37:17]: Initials. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:18]: Essentially three. So for me, I just want to let you know my initials are RVF. I love my initials. When I was growing up, because I was a big World War II buff pardon me. I wanted to be RAF so it could be the Royal Air Force. Tiff [00:37:35]: Right. I wanted to be MTM. Mary Teller more. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:38]: Oh, there you go. Tiff [00:37:40]: Right? Reginald Ferguson [00:37:40]: But here's the thing, guys. My name is Reginald Ferguson. The name tags that I found are of my nickname when I was a little kid, reggie Ferguson, because I went by Reggie. I went by the Diminutive when I was a child. Very appropriate. When I do a monogram, I don't know when I'm going to do it. You know what's going to read? Tiff [00:38:02]: No, Reg, that's not a monogram. Reginald Ferguson [00:38:07]: That's hot. That's a monogram. It's hot. Tiff [00:38:10]: Well, in this day and age, I can do that. You can do whatever. Reginald Ferguson [00:38:13]: I can do that. No, I can do that. I can do that because I have a nickname that's three letters. Tiff [00:38:20]: All right? Reginald Ferguson [00:38:21]: So instead of RVF, I just do Reg. So I walk with my ll. Bean tote bag Reg. Tiff [00:38:27]: Okay, well, see, that's not the standard. Reginald Ferguson [00:38:29]: So there are I know I'm not the standard. That's what makes me so unique. It's incredible. It's incredible. That's all I'm saying, Reg. Tiff [00:38:37]: But let me just state there is a standard to monogramming, and most of the time, the first letter is the first letter of your first name. The middle letter is a bigger letter, and that's your last name. Reginald Ferguson [00:38:48]: Yes. Tiff [00:38:48]: And then the third letter is back the same size as the first, and that's the first letter of your middle name. So for me. My name is Mary Tiffany Minutel. I go by Tiffany. Always have. Mary is after my grandmother. But unfortunately, MTM. Is great, but that's not the standard way of doing the monogram. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:07]: I'm doing Reg. Tiff [00:39:08]: My monogram is MMT. What's up with that? I don't like it. I never liked it. I never wanted anything monogrammed. It didn't look right to me because it wasn't equal. Didn't mean anything. I always wanted to be MTM, but yeah, now that I'm married, there's also a second standard. Once you're married, the middle initial is your married name, which is Schreiber. Tiff [00:39:32]: I'm a hyphenated minute tell Schreiber. But Schreiber would be the married name. So now it's MST. Still not right. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:41]: That's not bad. That's like mountain standard time. Tiff [00:39:45]: Oh, I like that. Okay, I can make that work. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:48]: I'm just saying. Tiff [00:39:49]: Reg all right, that's dope. Okay, well, that is monogramming. And one item don't wear everything monogrammed. That is a no no, that's whack if you have a statement piece that you're wearing. A shirt, maybe a cuff. A little monogram on your cuff, on your French cuffs. Oh, yeah, that would be nice. Or a tiny monogram on your tie if you wanted. Tiff [00:40:14]: Or even I've seen monograms on one side of the collar. Have you seen that, Reg? Yes, that's nice, too. I like that. No monograms on your jacket unless you're joining a glee club. Right? I mean, your loafers could have a monogram if you hello. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:29]: Hello. Tiff [00:40:32]: That was nice, Reg. Thank you. I appreciate that. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:35]: No, you're welcome, Reg. Tiff [00:40:38]: Okay, I get it. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:39]: It's going to be so smooth if I ever do it. Tiff [00:40:41]: All right, I'm going to buy something in monogram. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:43]: Is your name? Reginald Edgardon Gleason. Tiff [00:40:49]: Gleason. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:54]: I'm like, no, it's reg. Tiff [00:40:56]: It's just reg. There we go. Reginald Ferguson [00:40:58]: They're going to love it. Tiff [00:40:59]: Blowing all the rules to the they're. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:01]: Going to love it. Yeah. Tiff [00:41:02]: All right, let's move. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:03]: I'm an iconoclast. Tiff [00:41:04]: Fashion word of the day. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:11]: Fashion word of the day of the. Tiff [00:41:17]: Our game show section of our episode, where Reg and I each bring a fashion word and we try to stump each other as to the words meaning and context in a sentence and spelling, just like back in the day of schools. All right, Reg, do you want to go first or you want me to go first? Reginald Ferguson [00:41:36]: No, you could go first. Tiff [00:41:37]: I got three pages. So what am I? Reginald Ferguson [00:41:40]: Three pages of Fashion words of the day when you need one. Why do you do this? Tiff [00:41:45]: I'm a virgo. I am an overachiever. I got to make sure I have exactly what I want. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:49]: Oh, my God. It's ridiculous. Tiff [00:41:51]: Okay, so which word shall I choose? Reginald Ferguson [00:41:55]: One. Tiff [00:41:57]: Okay, this is a simple word, right? Reginald Ferguson [00:42:01]: I'm going to be stumped. Tiff [00:42:02]: Bias. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:03]: Bias. I have to tell you, listeners, the reason I'm laughing is that our producer, Search, just gave major side eye to Tiffany, and I have to admit, as an African American, my definition is narrowcast as well. Tiff [00:42:23]: Well, that's why I brought the word to the foreground. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:26]: And our producer is still giving you side eye. Tiff [00:42:29]: Hold on. This is a fashion term. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:31]: Hold on. Tiff [00:42:33]: All right, reg, come on. You can do it. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:35]: I can spell it. B-I-A-S. But my definition is about who I am in this society. Tiff [00:42:44]: That is a definition that's disabelle. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:52]: I can't wait to hear the effect. Yeah, I know that there is probably a technical term for that. Tiff [00:43:00]: I don't know if you guys notice that a lot of my words can have alternate meanings that I bring. I don't know if you've noticed that about me, and this one absolutely does. And we're not here to talk about the word bias. Reginald Ferguson [00:43:16]: You're outnumbered on this. I don't know, but really no, please. No, we're guffawing. That's all I'm saying. Tiff [00:43:23]: Yeah, I got you. Oh, absolutely. And I knew when I brought this word what was going to happen, and absolutely, there is definitely a lot to be talked about in that meaning of the word after the podcast is over. But can you guess what bias means in terms of fashion? Reginald Ferguson [00:43:41]: The only thing, and it's a real stab in the dark. Tiff [00:43:46]: Oh, that was bad. Reginald Ferguson [00:43:47]: Yeah, I know. Tiff [00:43:48]: That was really bad. Reginald Ferguson [00:43:50]: Is sometimes biases make that happen. The only fashion contacts I can attempt to try to link with is with a sewing machine. Tiff [00:44:04]: You do need a sewing machine because you're working on getting close fabric. All right, so I'm going to break it down for you. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:12]: Please. Tiff [00:44:12]: So the bias is a piece of woven fabric. The bias of a piece of woven fabric is at 45 degrees to its warp and weft threads every there you go with that. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:27]: Warp and weft. Again, you know, that's my weakness. Tiff [00:44:29]: You got to know about the warp and theft. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:31]: I know, but you did this to me another episode. Tiff [00:44:33]: Okay, let me finish. Every piece of woven fabric has two biases at right angles to each other. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:43]: Clearly, I'm not of the loom or the weave. Tiff [00:44:45]: Listen, fabrics which are not woven, such as felt, do not have a bias. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:50]: Oh. Tiff [00:44:51]: So if you think about it, warp and weave. Warp and weave. Warp. I'm sorry. Warp and weft. Warp and weft. Warp and weft. They're a weave. Tiff [00:45:01]: You turn them on, and a weave has you pull fabric this way, and you pull fabric that way, and it doesn't have much give, but you cut it on a bias at a 45 degree angle, and you pull it's got more give because you're pulling the fabric where it's least strong, and that's at the diagonal. So that's the best way I can tell you. Ties, not your tie. But if you look at silk ties. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:30]: This is a silk tie. Tiff [00:45:31]: They're cut. Let me see. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:32]: It's a silk knit tie. Tiff [00:45:35]: Yeah, it's knit, but that's not on the bias. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:37]: It's fly. Tiff [00:45:38]: So when you see something knit, you see the threads going east and west, north and south, right? Reginald Ferguson [00:45:46]: Yes. Tiff [00:45:46]: When the fabric is cut on a bias, the threads are going northwest to southwest, east, west. You know what I'm saying? They're going at a diagonal, which gives the fabric a bit of stretch. So you would cut a piece of fabric for a garment on the bias of the fabric instead of the straight up and down warped. And weft if you wanted that piece of garment to give a little when you wear it, like in shirts. There's a lot of men's shirts that I'm seeing lately cut on the bias, and a lot of them with patterns, which makes them super cool, because then they use on the cuffs and the collar the exact same fabric. But it looks contrasting because that is cut on the straight cut of the weave. Reginald Ferguson [00:46:30]: Wow. Tiff [00:46:31]: Is interesting. You can use the same fabric. Another good example of a garment made with fabric bias cut. Middleton what's? Her name not Kate, but her sister, who upstaged her HIPPA. That white dress that she wore that hugged every single curve that she had, that fabric silk was cut on the bias, so it just sort of laid right in all the spots. Yeah. So if you're not in shape, don't wear bias cut. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:11]: Point taken. Tiff [00:47:12]: All right. That's my word. And I stumped you. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:14]: Yeah, you did. I'm not surprised. Well, I have a word. Tiff [00:47:18]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:19]: You ready for it? Tiff [00:47:20]: Yes. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:21]: It's actually two words. Tiff [00:47:22]: Okay. Oh, I didn't use it in a sentence. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:24]: No, you did not. Please feel free. Just rubbing it in. My producer still giving you side eye. Tiff [00:47:32]: That hoot couture gown is definitely cut on the bias because it is rocking. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:40]: Hoot couture? Tiff [00:47:42]: Yes. A lot of hoot couture is cut on the bias. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:46]: Okay, you shot, you scored. Tiff [00:47:49]: Here I go. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:51]: Chesterfield coat. Tiff [00:47:53]: Chesterfield coat. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:55]: Yes. Tiff [00:47:56]: I'm going to spell it. Chesterfield. Chesterfield. Reginald Ferguson [00:48:01]: Yes. Tiff [00:48:02]: Second word. Coat. Coat. Reginald Ferguson [00:48:05]: Yes. Tiff [00:48:05]: Chesterfield coat is an outer garment, an outer coat worn over a suit, usually made of a certain kind of wool, and most of the time, window pane design on the fabric. No. Okay, I lost you there in the end, but it's nice. It also has a certain cut to it's got two pockets. Reginald Ferguson [00:48:31]: But you're missing something. You're missing something. What is one defining feature of that coat? You definitely have the buzer on this one, Serge. Tiff [00:48:40]: Hold on, I'm visualizing it's got to do with the collar. Reginald Ferguson [00:48:44]: Yes. Tiff [00:48:45]: It's a peak collar, not a notch. Am I right? Reginald Ferguson [00:48:51]: The velvet collar? Tiff [00:48:53]: Oh, wow. You would think so. It's a contrasting velvet collar with a wool most of the time. Window pane wool. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:01]: No, not necessarily window pane. No, that I have to refute. Tiff [00:49:04]: Oh, okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:05]: No, not at all. The whole point is velvet collar. Tiff [00:49:08]: Velvet collar. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:09]: Yes. Tiff [00:49:09]: Dang. I didn't know that. I've seen some Chesterfield coats. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:15]: I win. Tiff [00:49:16]: Yeah, you do. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:17]: No, we're tied. Tiff [00:49:18]: Are we? Reginald Ferguson [00:49:20]: Well, no, actually, according to our producer I won. Tiff [00:49:26]: Pardon the producer's language. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:28]: Oh, both of you have been throwing out expletives. I'm the only clean commentary. Tiff [00:49:34]: Reg, we're sullying your podcast. All right. Chesterfield coat. Great. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:43]: Gotcha. Well, that's a wrap. Tiff [00:49:45]: You got to use it in a sentence. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:48]: Fine. I would rock a Chesterfield color if I had one. Tiff [00:49:53]: Oh, you don't have no. So sad. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:56]: That's not sad. I have top coats. Tiff [00:50:00]: All right, I'm fine. Reginald Ferguson [00:50:01]: I have a camel hair coat. Tiff [00:50:02]: Nice. Reginald Ferguson [00:50:03]: And a dope ass Hugo Boss wool pattern coat. Tiff [00:50:07]: You're good? Reginald Ferguson [00:50:08]: Yeah. Tiff [00:50:09]: All right? Reginald Ferguson [00:50:09]: I'm fine. Tiff [00:50:10]: All right. Well, that does it. Reginald Ferguson [00:50:12]: Yeah, that's a wrap. Thank you so much for listening. We hope you had fun and are down for another one. Please tell your friends about us. Tiff [00:50:18]: Please. Reginald Ferguson [00:50:18]: Special shout. Tiff [00:50:20]: Please. Reginald Ferguson [00:50:20]: She's begging you all. Special shout. Out goes to our producer. Search everyone down with the Nyfg. And a very, very from the transatlantic mite, our man James of JJ Textiles, Manchester, for giving us a phonetics lesson. Tiff [00:50:37]: Yes, exactly. We needed that. Reginald Ferguson [00:50:38]: Yeah, we did. Tiff [00:50:39]: And I wanted to say thank you all for listening. Sorry if I was a little cranky. Reginald Ferguson [00:50:43]: Yeah, and I'm the one who's tired. Tiff [00:50:45]: Oakland Raiders thing, that gets me down. Reginald Ferguson [00:50:48]: America's Team. Six and five. Tiff [00:50:49]: Whatever. Reginald Ferguson [00:50:50]: Won't even come out the east. Tiff [00:50:51]: No, that's Cowboys six and five. Reginald Ferguson [00:50:53]: What did I say? Tiff [00:50:54]: You said America's Team. Reginald Ferguson [00:50:55]: Yeah, that's the Cowboys, that is. Tiff [00:50:57]: That is America's team. Reginald Ferguson [00:50:58]: Oh, my God. Oh, boy. Tiff [00:51:00]: Anyway, hit us up on Insta if you have any questions or comments and. Reginald Ferguson [00:51:05]: That address is new York fashion Geek. Tiff [00:51:08]: And also DM me. If you have some suggestions for us, for some fashion items or must have it items or heroes or whatever, email us at Reginald Ferguson [00:51:24]: Sounds good, right? Yeah, absolutely. Hit me up on the DM if you want a fashion consultancy, because that's what you do. Yes. Tiff [00:51:31]: Free consultation. Free. Reginald Ferguson [00:51:33]: Do that. Tiff [00:51:33]: Free. Reginald Ferguson [00:51:34]: Free. 99. Tiff [00:51:37]: I'm reg and I'm TIFF. Reginald Ferguson [00:51:39]: See you next time. 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