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The Fashion Geek Podcast

25 | Keep It Rolling As Long As The Register is Ringing

Reg and Tiff chop it up with special guest Joenelvy Ferreras of Burton NYC. He weighs in on Pride Month and gender fluidity in Hip-Hop, explains why Burton NYC and the Chill Foundation is his family and breaks down what it is to be a snowboard shredder from the South Bronx. Prepare to be moved.

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Reginald Ferguson [00:00:01]: Hello. I'm Reg. Tiff [00:00:02]: And I'm Tiff. And we're the fashion geeks. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:04]: Trying to make New York. Tiff [00:00:06]: And the world. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:06]: Well, New York is the world. Tiff [00:00:07]: A little flyer, one outfit Tiff [00:00:09]: And podcast. Tiff [00:00:10]: At a time. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:14]: Yeah. We're back. It's a beautiful day today. Tiff [00:00:17]: And pop. Lovely. Just lovely. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:20]: Specifically, BK. I am fashion geek number 1, Reg Ferguson. To my right, ride or die. Tiff [00:00:26]: And pop. I'm Tiffany Minotel Schreiber, fashion geek number 2. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:30]: Oh, yeah. Tiff [00:00:31]: Here bringing it to you. Everything everything a man needs to know regarding his, everyday wear or some you know, when he wants to step it up fashion wise, his formal wear, etcetera. We are here. We are here. Well, Reg is actually here to give you the, the 411. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:50]: Absolutely. Love that expression. Thank you, Mary j Blige. So Tiff [00:00:57]: I look just like her. Reginald Ferguson [00:00:58]: Absolutely. You you got it going on too if you got it going on. Tiff [00:01:07]: Pop. Good song. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:08]: Absolutely. In this episode, we're gonna hook you up. Gonna teach you some things. And always remember, if you need a consultation, hit me up on the Insta, New York Fashion Geek. Just DM me. Tiff [00:01:21]: And what what he means by consultation is, Reg is a style and fashion, consultant here at your service to help the everyday man, And pop. Step up his gear as as Reg would say so that, he's, looking his most fabulous self every day, every minute. Reginald Ferguson [00:01:38]: Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. But to be clear, as Tiff said, whatever your look is, gentlemen, I'm gonna make it better. Tiff [00:01:45]: There you go. I mean, who would say no to that? Reginald Ferguson [00:01:49]: I wouldn't. Tiff [00:01:50]: Well, thank you all, all of you new listeners and everyone who has joined us, who've been listening before. You know how it goes. So we we take a few minutes to sort of reconnect with each other, find out what we've been doing, or, you know, go over any current events. And And pop. I have to say, we we are in the month of June. Yes. And the month of June is? Reginald Ferguson [00:02:12]: Pride Month. Tiff [00:02:12]: There we go. So we absolutely have to talk about Pride Month. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:15]: It's also Black Music Month. Tiff [00:02:17]: It is? Reginald Ferguson [00:02:19]: Yes, it is. Tiff [00:02:19]: Oh, I didn't know that. Ah. Wow. Double duty here. That's a Reginald Ferguson [00:02:22]: Black History moment for Tiff [00:02:23]: And pop. Alright there. Good for everyone Reginald Ferguson [00:02:25]: to know. Well, let's stay Tiff [00:02:27]: with the rainbow. Because it's important. I think it's great. I remember back when it was, like, Pride Day or Pride Week, And now it's a whole month. Whole month of celebrations here in New York. And, pop Tiff [00:02:37]: moment to me. Tiff [00:02:38]: Bob Burrows. Does. And, so I just wanted to, you know, give a shout out. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:43]: Absolutely. Well, we have been talking about it. In our previous one of our previous episodes, we were talking about Converse. Tiff [00:02:50]: Converse. Yep. And they have a little pride capsule. Reginald Ferguson [00:02:52]: Absolutely. Talk about Todd Snyder too. Tiff [00:02:55]: And it seems like more designers are sort of, don't wanna call it jumping on the bandwagon. Reginald Ferguson [00:03:01]: I was about to ask you, what do what do you think? Tiff [00:03:04]: Well, I mean, jumping on the bandwagon is such a negative connotation to it. I you know, a lot of fashion brands are releasing capsules to commemorate this month of pride to show their support in gender fluidity, in in sexual orientation or or not sexual orientation or and I think it's I think it's great. I think showing the support is honest, in in most of the fashion houses. But, you know, in these times, whenever things start things like this start get going, You always have your doubts of sincerity. Right? Reginald Ferguson [00:03:44]: I guess. I haven't thought about it that way. I guess I'm more earnest about it. I hope that every brand that is representing, for the community is doing it. I think it's, I think it's dual pronged. We live in a capitalist society. They wanna do things that represent a movement yet get paid. Tiff [00:04:09]: Yes. So can you do that There are there Reginald Ferguson [00:04:11]: are dollars Tiff [00:04:11]: dollars associated with this kind of thing. Reginald Ferguson [00:04:13]: Absolutely. So, So again, can you do that genuinely? Tiff [00:04:17]: Well, I guess it makes I guess that will we'll see what happens in July and August. In September. The fall fashion shows of September. Does this appreciation and support, you know, sort of flow into And pop. The fashion of the rest of the year. Or is this just these one off capsules that, you know, after the month of June, after prime month is over, there's no more rainbow? You You know what I mean? Reginald Ferguson [00:04:41]: Well, since there's a significant number of designers who reflect the rainbow, I would like to think that we are highlighting this month, And that's significant. Like you said, we went from a day to a month. And as I echoed just a little bit earlier, that's the that's the results of a movement. Yeah. And that's impressive. So Tiff [00:05:00]: So we're in forward motion. That's what you that's what you're getting to. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:03]: Sure. Tiff [00:05:03]: Alright. The ball is rolling. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:05]: It is. Tiff [00:05:05]: Keep it rolling. Impop. Right? Reginald Ferguson [00:05:08]: As long as the, as long as the register is ringing. Tiff [00:05:11]: But then, I I wanna mention something. You sent me an article. There's something very interesting. So we're just talking about the ball rolling and forward momentum of, of, you know, the appreciation of gender fluidity, The pride month. There is 1 you know, we talked earlier about the fashion industry and, influence of music on the fashion industry, and you sent me an article. You know what I'm talking about? You know which article I'm talking about? Reginald Ferguson [00:05:39]: I believe so. You mean Tiff [00:05:40]: It's titled The Evolution of Gender fluidity, and hip hop fashion. Reginald Ferguson [00:05:45]: Yeah. Yeah. Tiff [00:05:46]: You can find this article at high Reginald Ferguson [00:05:50]: I call it high snobiety. Tiff [00:05:53]: And pop. Snow by a t is the way it's spelled, so I'm gonna say it like that. I don't know if that's how you say it or not, but enunciate every syllable so you can find it. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:02]: That's very nice. Tiff [00:06:03]: Impop. This was a very interesting article. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:05]: I'm glad you liked it. Tiff [00:06:07]: It, it it seemed to showcase, one one area of, of music genre that may be a little slow on the uptake of acceptance, And pop. And, that's in hip hop. So I'll leave it up to you. You wanna dive right into it, and I'll hop on after you? Reginald Ferguson [00:06:29]: I thought you're gonna say hip hop after me. And I know they've really been Tiff [00:06:33]: That's very punny. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:35]: I know. I know. And you you can go there. So, No. I'm flattered for you to ask me, but we all know I'm a big I'm a big rap fan. I'm a big hip hop fan. Tiff [00:06:44]: And we have talked about the influence of hip hop on Impop. Fashion. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:47]: Absolutely. With our fashion heroes. Tiff [00:06:48]: And this article sorta talks about hip hop's response to movement and fashion. So it's sort of Talking about it in reverse in a little bit. Reginald Ferguson [00:06:57]: Well, I think the ultimate thing is it proves that things move fluidly. Oops. Tiff [00:07:03]: Oop. There you go. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:04]: Fluidly. So hip hop has always been male dominated. It's always had more than a sliver of misogyny. I, myself, as a child, definitely reveled in that. But as I like to say, now I'm grown. So meaning some of those elements as quickly as I had them, as quickly as I let them go. But I'm always gonna I'm always gonna rep for hip hop. It's, it's important to me. Reginald Ferguson [00:07:32]: I represent the golden age, so certainly, I'm kind of like that individual on the yawn On the lawn on the lawn telling these kids to get off it sometimes because it's Tiff [00:07:43]: Does that mean you're old? Reginald Ferguson [00:07:45]: It means it means it means what it means what it means. It means that, hey. You know, I represent the golden age. I guess that's gonna come in a little bit later. He represents the contemporary age. I mean and there's there's room for both of us. Right? So I think what I find interesting is because of that male dominance, how was it reflected in fashion? Well, we talked about Dap. We talked about Dapper Dan, who we'd still love to have on the show, unquestionably. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:13]: Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. We need to work on that more. But With with literally a generation of time, we have individuals in the rap game That go, I'm not necessarily male. I don't have to have a thick gold chain. I don't have to wear, you know, sagging and bagging, which, of course, is emblematic of a very specific time. Tiff [00:08:38]: Right. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:39]: That's okay. Tiff [00:08:40]: Yeah. And pop. Kanye West leather kilt. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:43]: I felt you know, when the kilt came out Tiff [00:08:46]: I thought it was amazing. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:48]: Oh, you did? Okay. I thought it was I thought it was hot. Tiff [00:08:51]: Well, it was it Reginald Ferguson [00:08:51]: was very interesting. It's not something I would rock, but it was dope. Tiff [00:08:54]: It was different. Reginald Ferguson [00:08:55]: Because it was Givenchy. It was just dope. Tiff [00:08:57]: It was different, and it was in your face just like Kanye. So that's what was amazing to me. I was like, what? Changing the game. Reginald Ferguson [00:09:06]: Yeah. No. And I and I like that. I mean, I know we have a lot to talk about the subject. And even our guest, if he wants to, he could weigh in before we actually introduce him. Tiff [00:09:16]: Oh, we have a that's right. We have a guest Yeah. In the house today. Reginald Ferguson [00:09:19]: We have a guest today. I I'm totally I'm totally with the fluidity until it comes to young thug. And then And and then Tiff [00:09:28]: Which is interesting. This article talks about how young Thug, Foley, he wore a lavender lace dress on the cover of his album. Reginald Ferguson [00:09:39]: And, of course, you do because Tiff [00:09:41]: And as you can hear Reginald Ferguson [00:09:41]: You're you're the younger generation, Tiff [00:09:43]: so and I'm the old school. Stepped up to the mic. You wanna introduce yourself speaking directly into the mic? Because it's not on the side. You gotta speak right on the right in the middle. Alright? Tiff [00:09:52]: How you guys doing? My name is Jonelvey Ferreras. Tiff [00:09:56]: Jomnalvi. I was wondering how you, pronounce that. Reginald Ferguson [00:09:58]: That's big j for me. Tiff [00:09:59]: Do we do people call you Jomnalvi or Joe or No. Tiff [00:10:02]: I'm telling you call me, bebe. Tiff [00:10:04]: Impa. Call you what? Bebe. Tiff [00:10:06]: It's more of a Hispanic thing. Tiff [00:10:07]: Bebe. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:08]: Bebe. Yeah. Bebe. Absolutely. Tiff [00:10:09]: Am I saying it right? Yeah. Bebe? Tiff [00:10:10]: Of course. Yeah. Tiff [00:10:11]: Because I I say Spanish with a southern accent. And pop. My husband laughs at me all the time. Bebe? Tiff [00:10:17]: Bebe. Tiff [00:10:17]: We'll stick with, Janelle. Tiff [00:10:20]: J, Janelle. Yeah. Whatever you want. Alright. Tiff [00:10:22]: Cool. Welcome. It's all good. Tiff [00:10:23]: Thank you. Thank you guys for having Reginald Ferguson [00:10:24]: me today. Absolutely. Absolutely. We're gonna have you continue jumping into this, and then we're gonna really show you the proper love and and really introduce you. Tiff [00:10:30]: Right. At the moment, we're we're doing, You know, we're talking about the, the change, the gender fluidity that, you know, that's kinda sorta eking its way into hip hop, which has been Reginald Ferguson [00:10:42]: And pop. Tiff [00:10:42]: The last place Mhmm. Music wise and music and fashion go hand in hand in a lot of ways, but it's like the last place that seems to accept this kind of change because it's all about machismo Yeah. You know, when it comes to hip hop. Of course. Reginald Ferguson [00:10:56]: And I love I love that my guest has, you know, a solid opinion. 1, because he's a New Yorker. 2, he's from the Bronx. He knows that's one of our links, you know, meaning that my family lived in the Bronx. I went to school in the Bronx. So he knows I have much love, and I literally know his train stopped. I wanna know specifically, Jay. You just said, yo. Reginald Ferguson [00:11:14]: I love Young Thug, but I want you to explain that to me from, Are you saying that are you saying that to me, expressly, from a lyric standpoint, or what he's representing in terms of his steez? Tiff [00:11:27]: The reason why I love young thug is actually a little bit of both. And I said when it comes to his lyrics, he's actually always unique. He expresses himself in the way that he wants to, but But also in the way that he dress when it comes to actually fashion, he's actually, like, very, very secure with his, sexuality. You know what I'm saying? Tiff [00:11:43]: Impop. Very it's called confidence. Exactly. He oozes his confidence. Tiff [00:11:47]: He doesn't care what people think about him. You know, he goes out there. He expresses the way himself in the way that he wants to. In the sense, he doesn't he doesn't care about what nobody says. And I actually like that for the simple fact that when not that I actually like dress The same way that he does, but when I wanna express myself when it comes to what I put on and, like, the kind of fashion that I wanna give out to the people, I don't care either. Reginald Ferguson [00:12:09]: Good. And I can't wait to talk about that. Tiff [00:12:10]: You know, so I don't know. Yeah. Because a lot of people always now nowadays in society, a lot of people care about what other people think about them. And I think that's a really big problem in society today. Tiff [00:12:19]: Well, it it it sort of, stymies creativity. Individuality and creativity and creativity within everybody's individuality. Impop. I mean, can you imagine if nobody cared what other people thought what this society would look like today? I mean, just think about it. Tiff [00:12:34]: I can't actually Imagine that. Tiff [00:12:35]: Nice. Tiff [00:12:36]: I can't Tiff [00:12:36]: Love that. Tiff [00:12:37]: You're on the same line because everybody will have so much more confidence. Yeah. They would they would be so much more out there, so much more open minded. Tiff [00:12:43]: And individual. Tiff [00:12:44]: And then you could take from what other people what you see from other people, you could take from that and, like, create it in your own way and put it into your own style. Tiff [00:12:51]: Nice. Tiff [00:12:52]: You understand what I'm saying? Tiff [00:12:53]: Absolutely, of this age. How old are you? Tiff [00:12:55]: I am 21 years old. Reginald Ferguson [00:12:56]: So Tiff [00:12:56]: you're 21 year old with a with a mindset like that. That's brilliant. Reginald Ferguson [00:13:00]: Coulda had him. And pop. Damn. I'm getting old. Tiff [00:13:04]: In this art in this article, I wanna point out since we were talking about young Thud young Thug. Thug. Sorry. And pop. I I highlighted something that 90% of his clothes are women's. Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:13:15]: No. I can't. I can't cosign this. I can't. I can't. I know you know that, Jay. Tiff [00:13:20]: I I can't both find this. Know that. He's a rapper. Reginald Ferguson [00:13:24]: Is blowing my mind. Tiff [00:13:25]: Mine too. I'm like Reginald Ferguson [00:13:27]: I was fortunate enough big shout out to Tracy McGraw. I was fortunate enough 2 years ago. I can't remember the exact name, and, Jay, maybe you remember. I went to the taping of that whole BET fashion thing. They would do that, like, once or twice a year on BET. Tiff [00:13:39]: Twice a year. Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:13:40]: And the year I went, Young Thug was there. Mhmm. And, you know, I listened to everything he had to say. You know? I didn't knock the Steez, but to me, he wasn't out there like that album cover. Tiff [00:13:54]: Yeah. I feel you. Tiff [00:13:55]: So Well, does he have to be out there like that? Reginald Ferguson [00:13:57]: No. No. No. No. No. I'm just saying literally when I was there, you know, his his stage wasn't that extreme. But but he was still in that whole, I dress like this. I I use women's gear to to and I was like, okay. Tiff [00:14:09]: Did you go there looking forward to seeing him in the dress? Reginald Ferguson [00:14:12]: No. No. No. No. I just went there just because I was invited, and I was happy I was happy, you know, to be there. It was him. It was Dave it was Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Dave's Tiff [00:14:21]: Yeah. Baseball. Oh. Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:22]: The one right there. Who I really love, you know, like, when she came out with try me, you know, gloves at. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, come on. That was it. Dude, let me tell you. Reginald Ferguson [00:14:30]: I heard that once from, like, someone's headphone, did not know what it was. And then, literally, I remember, like, for a week, 2 weeks, I was like, I gotta hear it again. I heard it again. It was this young sis. Like, literally corralled her. I was like, who is that? Tiff [00:14:42]: Yeah. Like, who is this singer? Reginald Ferguson [00:14:43]: Like, who is that? Because for me, to be honest, and he and I Jay and I have had a conversation about this once, I'm not generally feeling contemporary artist. I am frozen in my time. I understand that, but there's always a few exceptions. And when I heard her, that was an exception. But now getting right back to the point, she was also representing her Steve's from a fashion standpoint. The overall point is this. It has to move. It has to change. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:08]: That's what time does. I understand that. I am not the target. I am not the target audience. No. I guess is the target audience. Tiff [00:15:16]: Yes. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:16]: And that's and that's fair, and that's reasonable, and that's understandable. Tiff [00:15:19]: And can I tell you, looking at both of you, just so the listeners so I could help them sort of see what I'm looking at? Reg, you are rocking a a lovely pinstripes suit with, with the pocket In pocket. Square. Everybody knows my favorite thing is the pocket square. That's like the button. It's just beautiful with a pink yellow striped tie and your nice blue check shirt. And then we have, Joe here in a white T shirt, backwards hat, just chilling and relaxing And pop. And, you know, doing his own thing. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:50]: Right. Which would have been me at his age. Tiff [00:15:54]: Really? Really, Rich? I don't think so. Reginald Ferguson [00:15:58]: Yeah. Excuse me. Tiff [00:15:59]: I think you were wearing 3 piece suits. Absolutely. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:02]: I had to do some t TBT photos for y'all. I would say Tiff [00:16:04]: if it was my age back then he probably would be doing Impossing. Tiff [00:16:07]: Yeah. I have to see it to believe it. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:09]: Right. Right. Exactly. Exactly. Tiff [00:16:11]: You gotta post pictures because I don't believe it. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:13]: So much love for this guy. He is on the train line of my late grandparents. Mhmm. Okay. He's literally 1 train stop away. So when I found that out, he knew my eyes lit up. So, you know, just having him here, and he knows and I know it's so mysterious right now even though he has introduced himself, but we're gonna give again the true love Tiff [00:16:29]: Right. Reginald Ferguson [00:16:30]: When we when we migrate to the next topic, you know, I've been dying to have him on here, so he knows that. So actually, in a way and and really, this was really all All because of my producer search. He was like, listen. Stop having these guests just hang out while you guys just yap. Well, I got immediately. So Tiff [00:16:47]: Before we move on, let's put a button on this conversation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even know. More thing to say that I wanna read from the article that's, that's important. And pop. The article brings up Jaden Smith and the way he dresses and how that's really changed the game as well. Reginald Ferguson [00:17:02]: His sister too. Yeah. Tiff [00:17:03]: And Reginald Ferguson [00:17:03]: I mean, both of them. Tiff [00:17:04]: The one thing is that, Jaden Smith, they pointed out, modeled womenswear for Louis Vuitton's spring, In pop. Summer 2016 campaign. I mean, he bought women's wear. Yeah. Okay? I think that. That I mean, that's mind blowing in and of itself. But here's what he said, to to to to detractors. You know? His is you know, somebody said, what do you say to people who Reginald Ferguson [00:17:25]: are Yeah. He's a rapper as well. He's a rapper as well. So let's Imposterous. He's a rapper. Yeah. Oh, I know you know. I'm saying for our audience. Tiff [00:17:32]: Right. So What he said is, quote, I'm taking the brunt of it So later on, my kids and the next generations of kids will all think that certain things are normal that weren't expected before my time. He knows he's a vanguard, and he's okay with that. And he's taken the the punches. You know? He's rolling with it because he knows And pop. What he's doing is setting a precedent for future generations as far as change goes, and I I love that. Such a he's a young guy too. You know, these young people. Tiff [00:18:00]: You young people. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:01]: They're they're that generation. They're the millennial generation. Tiff [00:18:03]: Change that Prince. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:05]: But but that was a mistake behind on. No. Prince did not start it, So time out. Tiff [00:18:09]: Prince did start it. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:10]: He did not start it. He did not. So let let's be clear here. The point and to be honest, I don't think we really could put a button on it yet. I still think we have a Tiff [00:18:17]: few minutes to elaborate. Could go on and on and on. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:20]: The the point is this has been going on, y'all, Since the beginning of time. Just literally. Okay? Literally, we're talking about back in the day in Europe When these guys you I mean, we had that as a topic. Tiff [00:18:36]: Yep. The restoration period where men were prettier, got pieces of cake. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:40]: Okay. So now we're just relating it relating it to music. The point that I think is legitimate is that the last domino to fall in this is hip hop. That's what we're talking about. Tiff [00:18:52]: Excellent the way you just put that. Reginald Ferguson [00:18:53]: Because it's true. Tiff [00:18:54]: It's that Because it's very nice Reginald Ferguson [00:18:55]: to know. Happened in rock and roll. Yep. It's happened in R&D. Tiff [00:18:58]: Smith. Can we Reginald Ferguson [00:19:00]: to soap. Tiff [00:19:00]: From Aerosmith. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:01]: Yeah. So I'm saying literally, as I date myself from the seventies on, you know, when I was born, this has been happening. Tiff [00:19:08]: When were you born? Reginald Ferguson [00:19:09]: It's just that And pop. Come on. At Columbia Presbyterian Hospital. So So it's just about now this is finally affecting hip hop. Tiff [00:19:23]: Nice. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:24]: That's what this is about. Mhmm. And it's not that hip hop is taking this lying down either. I wanna be clear. So Tiff [00:19:31]: going down fighting, kicking and screaming. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:33]: Well, it's just about it's a I think it's not necessarily a coexistence, but it's a side by side that's going on right now. Because, okay, We're not rocking dookie chains. We're not doing dap with the Gucci in the back. Yeah. We're not sagging and bagging anymore. Tiff [00:19:50]: No. It's a dog. Right. Reginald Ferguson [00:19:51]: No. That's a wrap. I understand that. And that lasted for a long time, but not everyone is going what I consider to be this extreme either about, you know, this cross dressing, this androgyny. Not everyone is doing that. KDOT is not doing that. Mhmm. You know? Let's let's Right. Reginald Ferguson [00:20:08]: In Tiff [00:20:08]: 25 years, are we gonna Reginald Ferguson [00:20:11]: see? Well, that well, let's Only time will tell. Let's only time will tell. Boom. Fantastic. Tiff [00:20:15]: Excellent. That's the button. Reginald Ferguson [00:20:18]: Absolutely. So let's find out what this kid does. Right. So what do you do? Tiff [00:20:37]: Yes. What do you do? Tiff [00:20:39]: What do I do? So, I'm Say your name again. Tiff [00:20:42]: Say Say your name again so we can officially move into the next segment, which is our guest segment. Tiff [00:20:47]: Alright. So, my name is Jonelvey Ferreras. Tiff [00:20:50]: And pop. Jonellvi for I just wanna make sure I get the, accent on the right syllable. Reginald Ferguson [00:20:54]: Okay. Jonellvi Tiff [00:20:57]: Ferreres. Tiff [00:20:57]: It's a novelty for us. Yeah. From the Bronx, like I said before. I skate, but I mostly snowboard. And I actually work for Burn Snowboards. Okay. We have a store in 69 Green Street in Soho. Tiff [00:21:10]: Where? 6 Tiff [00:21:10]: 69 Green Street with a e at the end. Tiff [00:21:13]: Okay. Green. Tiff [00:21:14]: Yeah. So, I started with the company in 2016. I opened up that new store. Before the new location, it was at, 106 and Spring in Mercer, I believe. Yeah. I actually did not work hood. Yeah. Still in the hood. Tiff [00:21:29]: I actually did not work at the old location, but I did visit it a lot. Tiff [00:21:32]: Oh, yeah? Tiff [00:21:33]: I was a very, like, common customer. I was going there a lot as a kid, especially when I started snowboarding because I was just very infatuated with the sport. Tiff [00:21:41]: And pop. From the Bronx? Reginald Ferguson [00:21:42]: I cannot Just Soho. That's my point. I can't he knows. Soho. Yeah. I cannot wait. Man, we got so many questions for you. Tiff [00:21:49]: Right. How did you 2 so you talked earlier. You 2 met. You you met on the train. You bumped each other on the sidewalk. You went to an event together. Tiff [00:21:57]: We had we had an event at the store at at 69 Green Street in the Burton Snowboard Store. Tiff [00:22:01]: Rach, what were you doing in the Burton Snowboard? Tiff [00:22:03]: Tell you. He was at the bar chilling. Tiff [00:22:06]: He was at the bar? At the Tiff [00:22:07]: bar chilling. We got a bar right downstairs. Tiff [00:22:08]: Hip hop. You have a bar? Tiff [00:22:09]: It's called the dab bar downstairs at Burton. Called the dab. You know the Migos? We talking about hip hop dab downstairs Tiff [00:22:16]: And pop At Tiff [00:22:17]: Burton. That bar. Reginald Ferguson [00:22:18]: That's look. Tiff [00:22:19]: You understand what I'm saying? Tiff [00:22:19]: So And Reg was at the bar. Okay. Tiff [00:22:21]: He was there. Shitty. I don't I don't I don't remember if he introduced himself to me. I introduced myself to him. But right at the beginning, I already knew he was just such a cool dude. And I knew there was something interesting about this guy. Tiff [00:22:34]: You're cool, Reg. You're so cool. Reginald Ferguson [00:22:36]: Now I'm blushing. Tiff [00:22:36]: I saw my homie, John Gon, that actually works with me at the store talking to him and, actually, few of my bosses like Wager. And, Jason, shout out to those dudes. Shout out Reginald Ferguson [00:22:44]: to my to my good friends. Jason Jay Woods. You're supposed to be here too, but you keep fronting him. So Tiff [00:22:49]: You keep fronting, fam. He's a busy guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, they a lot of people told him. I was like, I actually wanna, like, talk to this dude. He looks real interesting, so I actually wanna Tiff [00:22:57]: Was he wearing a suit? Tiff [00:22:58]: Yes. And pop. Reginald Ferguson [00:22:58]: She was wearing a Tiff [00:22:59]: Always like this girl. You always gotta stay fly, baby. You know how that go. You know how that go. Thank you. Tiff [00:23:04]: I, I don't doubt it. Tiff [00:23:05]: And then, I introduced myself. I told him my name was Janelle or whatever. And long story short, he was like, yo, listen. He we felt the vibe. We spoke. And he was like, yo, listen. Like, I like that you're from the Bronx. I like what you do with the snowboard and stuff. Tiff [00:23:17]: I actually have a podcast that I do. You should come through and, like, be a guest at it. And I was like, I never done it before, but I'm so down. It sound Sounds like it sounds cool. Tiff [00:23:26]: Did you listen to some of our podcasts before you came? Tiff [00:23:28]: I have not. I've actually like I have not. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:30]: I have not. I have not. It's so good. It's so good. She's upset. I'm I'm not upset. I'm just happy Tiff [00:23:35]: you're here. I'm not upset. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:36]: I'm not upset. I'm not I'm Tiff [00:23:37]: actually even shocked. I'm not the kind of person that really listens to podcasts unless I'm on my way to the mountain. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:42]: You know, Tiff [00:23:43]: I need some inspiration. But Tiff [00:23:44]: you know Oh, we would be great to listen to on top of the mountains. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:47]: I don't think so. Tiff [00:23:50]: And pop. Well, listen. Reginald Ferguson [00:23:52]: Not? Well You need music, but continue. Yeah. Tiff [00:23:55]: It's mostly music. You know, high 9710521. Yeah. Tiff [00:23:58]: I'll sing for you if you want. Tiff [00:24:00]: But, but a lot of times, there are a lot of snowboarding podcasts out there that mean Reginald Ferguson [00:24:03]: Oh, really? Tiff [00:24:04]: Yeah. Yeah. There is. And my boy my boss way not my boss. My brother, My mentor on the on the street, on the mountain, his name is actually George Rodenhausen AKA Jimmy Wager. That's what we call him. There's a lot of snowboarding podcast that he puts me on to. So on our way to the mountain, he puts them on. Tiff [00:24:20]: And, like, basically, it's not like a lot of pro snowboarders, like, a lot of former snowboarders to just talk about, like, what's going on in the industry at the time. Tiff [00:24:26]: Have you met any Olympians? Tiff [00:24:28]: I have. I'm actually very good friends with a lot of Olympians. Robert Morris. Tiff [00:24:32]: Okay. Wow. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:33]: Who Tiff [00:24:33]: He's actually he actually rides for Burns Snowboards, my big Morris. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:36]: Okay. Tiff [00:24:37]: He's, Tiff [00:24:37]: I believe a 2 time, 3 time Olympian athlete. He's won a lot of X Games competitions. Reginald Ferguson [00:24:43]: Do you Tiff [00:24:43]: know the the kid named Red? He looks like he's 8. Tiff [00:24:46]: Red Gerard? Of course. I know Red Gerard. Tiff [00:24:47]: Old is he? He looks 8. Tiff [00:24:49]: I believe he's actually, like, Nineteen. He should be 18, 19, 20 right now. Yeah. Because when he won the Olympics, he was 18. Tiff [00:24:55]: I saw him on the Olympics, and I'm like, is he old enough? Tiff [00:24:58]: You wanna know how I know this because he Won a gold medal at 18, and he couldn't even celebrate. He couldn't drink. Tiff [00:25:04]: He couldn't do nothing. Reginald Ferguson [00:25:05]: That's how Tiff [00:25:05]: I know right now. He gotta be, like, 8, 19, 20 years old. Tiff [00:25:08]: Impop. He's still the, doesn't look it. Tiff [00:25:09]: That's that's my dude. He he shreds. He kills it. Like, he he kills it. Tiff [00:25:13]: He was serious snowboarder when I Tiff [00:25:15]: asked him. Look up a lot. I'll I look up to a lot, to, Red Gerard, mom McMorris. I'm actually a lot of real good friends with, Michael Bang. Tiff [00:25:22]: What about any females? Tiff [00:25:24]: Any females? I've met, Kelly Clark, my favorite. Tiff [00:25:27]: Okay. Tiff [00:25:27]: She's the OG. When it comes to Vernon Snow, she's the o g of the squad. And she's, real half pipe rider. She's won a lot of competitions, but Forget all of that. When it comes to you meeting her in person, she is so down to earth. Like, she's, like, such a easy person to talk to. And, when I went to Vail, Colorado 2014 to the US Open, I got invited because I was with a nonprofit organization. Tiff [00:25:53]: And what is that nonprofit organization? Tiff [00:25:54]: The nonprofit organization is called the Chill Foundation. Tiff [00:25:57]: Okay. Tiff [00:25:57]: So it was founded by Jay Carpenter and Donna Carpenter, which are the owners of Brand Snowboards. And the, Goal of that nonprofit organization is to get, underprivileged youth from cities like New York City, Seattle, all around the country, all around the world To, build self esteem and confidence, do board sports. Tiff [00:26:17]: Nice. Tiff [00:26:18]: So depending on where you at. Like, in New York, they have snowboarding, skateboarding, and surfing. Tiff [00:26:22]: And pop. Okay. Tiff [00:26:22]: That's what Reginald Ferguson [00:26:23]: I'm saying. Tiff [00:26:23]: All of them have a board. Tiff [00:26:24]: Yeah. They depending on where you at. They depending on what kind yeah. Tiff [00:26:27]: Depending on what kind of yeah. Depends on what kind Tiff [00:26:28]: of wheels. Tiff [00:26:29]: 1 has a fin. Tiff [00:26:30]: Yeah. You Reginald Ferguson [00:26:30]: just gotta do something, but Tiff [00:26:31]: It, like, it impacts a lot of youth. Tiff [00:26:33]: Okay. Tiff [00:26:34]: Alright. And I Tiff [00:26:34]: Are you a are you And I Tiff [00:26:35]: am a very I am an example of that. Tiff [00:26:37]: You are not alone. Tiff [00:26:38]: Because if it was not for burning And the show foundation. I tell you right now, I'll either be dead or in jail. Tiff [00:26:43]: Oh, that's so interesting. That is on my list of questions for you, and you segued very nicely into that because I read a little bit about that. The the foundation, the not for profit. And I love love love that they do that. That they do extend these opportunities out for the underprivileged youth. Tiff [00:26:59]: Yes. Tiff [00:27:00]: And that it does make a difference in their lives, you being, you know, number one example. Good for you. Tiff [00:27:06]: Thank you. I appreciate that. Reginald Ferguson [00:27:07]: Jay, how did this happen? Because you know that's all I wanna talk about. How does a kid from Worldwood Tiff [00:27:13]: fashion podcast, and he just wants to know how the hell you got Impromptu. Reginald Ferguson [00:27:17]: Because it's all it's all it's all related. It's all it's all related. I could Tiff [00:27:21]: tell you what happened. So for snowboarding, I started skating at 9 years old. Tiff [00:27:24]: And, Empire. When you say skating, we're not talking about roles. Reginald Ferguson [00:27:27]: Skateboarding. I mean, I Yeah. Tiff [00:27:28]: Yeah. Skateboarding. Tiff [00:27:29]: Not 4 wheels. Tiff [00:27:30]: And, it could be 4. Reginald Ferguson [00:27:31]: It is 4. Tiff [00:27:32]: Around that, When I started skateboarding, I came into some company that was not a very good influence. So I got I got into the streets, started doing a lot of bad things. I fell off in school. When I actually decided to go back to high school, my high school, which is my hall, Bronx High School, shout outs to them, was actually a little they were sponsored by the Tiff [00:27:51]: Chill Foundation. So Tiff [00:27:52]: Really? Yeah. So my English teacher, his name is mister Andrew Victor. I called him mister Victor. He stopped me in the hallway while I was cutting class. He was like, yo. Tiff [00:28:00]: You were cutting class? Tiff [00:28:01]: Yes. I was. Oh my god. Yo. Listen. I know what you're doing. Well, let yo, hear me out real quick. He was like, you wanna go snowing? Well, I'm Snowboarding. Tiff [00:28:07]: I don't wanna go snow. I I skate, bro. I'm from where the hell we where the hell we get snow Reginald Ferguson [00:28:11]: on our Tiff [00:28:11]: hand anyway? Like, where you gonna take me, bro? And he was like, yo, now listen. We go to New Jersey, Mount Creek. That's where they do the, the program at. Tiff [00:28:18]: I've been out. Tiff [00:28:19]: Creek. Yeah. And, you know, we they teach kids on a bunny slope or whatever, and he told me the whole, No goal of it. You know, like, the confidence and self esteem, something like that. But the point of it is to get to do like, to get kids to do better in Impossible. You know? And, like, not even just school in general. It's it's all about, like, the school general exactly. The general principal. Tiff [00:28:38]: And pop. What was the confidence factor we were talking about earlier when we were talking about hip hop Mhmm. Individuality. Tiff [00:28:44]: Exactly. I I was not with it. I'm a tell you that right now. Tiff [00:28:47]: Oh, you weren't? Tiff [00:28:47]: He was like, yo, but listen. I was like, I don't wanna do it. I'm a skater. I'm not about that or whatever. He was like, yo, listen. Every Tuesday, you get to leave school 2 hours early. I'm like, Put me down. Reginald Ferguson [00:28:58]: I'm with it. Tiff [00:29:00]: He had your number. Tiff [00:29:02]: So then he put me down, and then We went I think it was the next Monday, next Tuesday. We took the bus to, like, 149 Street of Grand Concourse. The bus came through, picked us up, took us to Mountain Creek. Yeah. When I strapped in and I went down that bunny slope, it was easy for me because I already skated. It's got, like, the same movements. Tiff [00:29:17]: I was gonna ask you. Tiff [00:29:18]: You know? It it was, like, kinda Did Tiff [00:29:19]: you take a lesson first? Reginald Ferguson [00:29:20]: Or It was, like Tiff [00:29:21]: it was it was the lesson. Reginald Ferguson [00:29:22]: Okay. I Tiff [00:29:23]: I I like, I'm strapped in, and it was a little bit easier for me, like I said, because I did the skateboarder. And then I just fell in love with it. Yeah. Like, right there. And it wasn't just because of the, like, the snowboarding. It was like the scenery, like, You know, the the environment, the people. It was so different from the city. Tiff [00:29:40]: The culture. Tiff [00:29:41]: Especially from where I come from, like, a lot of negativity in the city, like, a lot of bad things that you see. Like, I looked at it. It's like, yo, this could change my life. You understand what I'm saying? Tiff [00:29:49]: Wow. That's an epiphany. Take me You had a huge epiphany on your 1st time on the board. Yeah. Tiff [00:29:53]: That's what I'm and I was like, yo, like, this could actually changed my life. Like, how far could I take this? You understand what I'm saying? Tiff [00:29:58]: Wow. Tiff [00:29:59]: And it's like so my mom is very How Tiff [00:30:01]: old were you? Tiff [00:30:01]: I was 11, 12 years old. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:03]: Uh-huh. You know, sounds like Tiff [00:30:04]: You were young. Tiff [00:30:05]: I was. And my mom my mom is very religious. She doesn't approve a lot of things, even with the skateboarding. But when I came to the snowboard and for some reason I don't know why, but for some reason Tiff [00:30:16]: Mom had wisdom. Tiff [00:30:17]: She was like, yo, go do that. And I'm like, yo, for real? She's like, yeah. Go do it. It sounds I'm like, I I'm gonna go do it. She even went when the Chill Foundation took me to Vail, Colorado for US Open With Jake and Donna, she knew about it before they even told me about it. She already had some papers. This is not a 3rd. 2 weeks before I was gone, she was like, yo. Tiff [00:30:39]: I was like, yo, ma, I'm gonna go to Vail with these she was like, oh, no. I knew. I'm like, you knew. That's messed up. How you how didn't you tell me? Couldn't tell Reginald Ferguson [00:30:47]: me about this. Tiff [00:30:48]: Know everything. Tiff [00:30:49]: It's like, wow. Reginald Ferguson [00:30:50]: She was like Tiff [00:30:51]: she's I know it makes you happy. It keeps you out the streets. Tiff [00:30:54]: Nice. So go do that. And pop. That is amazing. And I wanna encourage everyone to go to Burton's website and take a look. If you click if you scroll all the way down, And pop. You can see on the bottom of the the page, there's a link to the Chill Foundation. Take a look at it. Tiff [00:31:08]: It's amazing what they do, and you're a true testament to that. And pop. I have to say, I did try ski, so I've skied. Not a lot. I'm from the south. We don't have a lot of snow in the south, but, you know, I've Slowly worked my way up north, and I married a man who, whose family went skiing every year. It's It's just the thing that, you know, the dad did with the 3 brothers. Tiff [00:31:28]: Family tradition. Tiff [00:31:29]: A family tradition kind of thing. And so, I took skiing lessons, and Reginald Ferguson [00:31:38]: And pop. I do once a year or did once a year, and so I was always on the bunny slope. Tiff [00:31:39]: I never really graduated. And 1 year, I decided, I'm gonna snowboard. I'm gonna do that. It looks easy. I can do that. And pop. I was in the lesson, and I was just kinda sorta standing there on the board. And somehow, I slipped, and my Impop. Tiff [00:31:53]: The board went up in the air, and I came down on my butt so hard. Oh my god. I didn't even get up the slope, and I was hurting so bad. Can I tell you that half my ass was black, blue, green, orange, yellow after that? It is not easy. And pop. It is not easy at all. I I never did it again, by the way. And I barely skied after that because I'm like, that's it. Tiff [00:32:16]: I'm gonna break something. I'm done. I'll sit I'll I'll what is it? I'll pray ski. That's my favorite part. And pop. Reginald Ferguson [00:32:24]: Yeah. She likes she likes to chill in the lounge with a cocoa. Tiff [00:32:26]: Yes. With a little something else in the cocoa. Reginald Ferguson [00:32:29]: Likes that too. Tiff [00:32:29]: I don't want plain cocoa. What's the point? Reginald Ferguson [00:32:32]: Jay, you you brought up a word, and I wanna I wanna bring up that word again, tradition. This is something people in that section of the Bronx, We know where you live. I know where you live. Generally don't do. And to me, what always mesmerized me when we started talking and chopping it up, There are not many people who look like you and I that are shredding, that are snowboarding. Tiff [00:32:57]: That's a fact. Reginald Ferguson [00:32:58]: Okay? Skiing is different. You know, you have the Black Ski Summit every year. Yeah. You know, shout out to my sister-in-law who's who's who's a part of that, but not snowboarding. Tiff [00:33:08]: And you go on Burton's website and their Instagram, and there's very, very few people who look like you on those in those pictures. Impop. Although I did see you in one of the pictures on Instagram. You know which one. You were holding the you were holding the, award that your store got for the highest fundraising. Tiff [00:33:23]: Fundraising for Chill Foundation. Yes. That is it. Fine. And then we are very proud of that too. I actually take a lot of initiative. Not only me, but everybody in the crew takes a huge initiative with that. I guess I'm just kind of like an influence, but even if I wasn't there, I think they would, like, take it very personal. Tiff [00:33:37]: Well, Burton on their website do talk about their initiative towards diversity. Mhmm. Impop. And and it's using the Chill foundation for that reason, but also sustainability Tiff [00:33:47]: Exactly. Tiff [00:33:47]: Which in our podcast their prior podcast, we talk about fashion and the need for sustainability, within fashion. And Burton talks about how everything they use is about reuse Tiff [00:33:59]: Yeah. Tiff [00:33:59]: And reinventing, and, you know, leaving less behind, than what they use. Tiff [00:34:06]: Yeah. Burn is really good with that. So they do A lot of our products is actually like a blue sign product. Have you ever heard of that? Yep. So blue sign products. So basically, when it comes to the chemicals that they use, So actually make the product actually doesn't harm the environment Right. As much, you know, because when it comes to manufacturing and producing, a lot of chemicals are left behind. And those chemicals do often really harm, you know, the environment, mother nature, and things like that. Tiff [00:34:31]: And then Bryan wants to leave a smaller footprint when it comes to that. Tiff [00:34:34]: Do you see it happening? Tiff [00:34:35]: I actually Tiff [00:34:36]: Is it just what they say, or are they walking and walking? Tiff [00:34:39]: It actually it actually is happening because when when Burton not just Burton. Well, a lot of other companies started doing it. A lot of other companies started coming into, like, into light. Like, why aren't you doing this? Right. Yeah. So especially when it comes to a company that actually has do outdoors, you should be very responsible with what you do. Oh. Tiff [00:34:56]: Because So true. That's a good point. I mean, first It's Tiff [00:34:59]: not like it's not like G Star, like Prada, You understand what I'm saying? Tiff [00:35:02]: Like, burnt snowboards are made to be worn outside. Tiff [00:35:05]: Exactly. Burnt snowboards is outside. You know, they're they're, like, meh. So actually, like, how you say it? Take in, like, a lot of harsh and, like, conditions and environment. But what what about the footprints it's leaving behind? Reginald Ferguson [00:35:17]: When you're Tiff [00:35:17]: actually producing it, like, what is it That's are you would do you even know what you're leaving behind? That's actually the question. Tiff [00:35:22]: Yeah. That's a good question. Tiff [00:35:23]: You understand? Tiff [00:35:24]: Okay. Tiff [00:35:24]: So it's like they take a huge initiative for that. And And then when it comes to, like, you know, I'm in the store, and I'm telling customers about it. Because a lot of customers that we get are very eco friendly. And then when you tell them about this Bluestant products or, like, whatever it is they'll be doing, you know, to make sure that mother nature stays away as beautiful as she is. They're actually, like, a little bit more intrigued, a little bit more, You know, into it. Tiff [00:35:44]: Nice. Tiff [00:35:45]: You know? Actually, it gives them a little bit. Tiff [00:35:46]: I honestly intrigued me. Reginald Ferguson [00:35:49]: Well, I I wanna I wanna use that word Still, because I'm I'm drilling a little bit deeper and differently than Tiff. Tiff [00:35:55]: Right. Reginald Ferguson [00:35:56]: Intrigue. How How do people respond to you up on the slopes? Tiff [00:36:07]: I've actually I've actually had, I've I've had some pre evac experiences before, but, the way they respond to me, you know, They underestimate me, I could say. You know? Like, where you from? Oh, yeah. I'm from New York City. You know, they kinda give me this look. I don't know what they say in their hair, but it's whatever. But one thing I do say in my head when I tell them is, like, no. Send me on the slopes. You know? Test me for, Now I'm in your environment. Tiff [00:36:35]: Let me see what you're gonna see what I could do. Nice. You understand what I'm saying? Absolutely. It's because I'm from the city. I'm from the Bronx. I mean, I can't shred. And I have I have I have a huge support system behind my back. I have a lot of people who tell people, like, yo, this dude, you know, I'm actually I'm a prodigy of I'm Pop, Chill, Foundation, Brasil. Tiff [00:36:51]: I have a lot of people on me, like I said. But, I don't know what they say in their head, and I actually don't really care. I just wanna have fun. You know, I've progressed so much in this sport and it's taught it's taught me so much. It's, like, made me such a better person that I I really don't care. You know? Like, just see for yourself. How about that? Just see for yourself. Tiff [00:37:12]: So you are a true vanguard of bringing diversity to the sport, snowboarding, Reginald Ferguson [00:37:16]: And popping. Tiff [00:37:17]: Just what we talked about. Your comp your self confidence is is amazing, and that's what makes you individually fashionable at all times. Right? Reginald Ferguson [00:37:27]: Woah. Woah. Woah. Okay. I'm still gonna dig deeper. I'm not gonna let you go off that, but okay. We we can migrate a little bit into the steez because really to me, even In terms of your skill, you know, shredding. Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:37:39]: I guess my immediate question is, obviously, you come as you, but my point is, again, Us as native New Yorkers, us with our Bronx connection. My point is, what kind of flavor you think you bring When, you know, when Skyler and Chip see you on the slopes. Tiff [00:37:54]: I don't I don't bring no flavor. I bring some drip. Tiff [00:37:56]: He wears pink pants. Tiff [00:37:58]: I I bring drip. And pop. Tiff [00:37:59]: What is that? Explain that to me. Tiff [00:38:01]: So so so drip, when it comes to flavor, you know, flavor is Tiff [00:38:05]: As in drip coffee? Tiff [00:38:07]: No. No. No. No. No. I'm talking about when When it comes to flavor, flavor is something that you get every day. You understand? You go to store and and I get something with some flavor. When it come to the drip, you can't get that anywhere. Tiff [00:38:17]: You You understand what I'm saying? You gotta you gotta it's it's a very rare thing. Tiff [00:38:21]: Oh, okay. Tiff [00:38:21]: It's like you're going to it's like you're going to to the sneaker store trying to find some rare kinda kicks. You know, it it it's kinda different. Okay. See, so let me put it let me put it like this. Right? When you got some Tropicana juice In the fridge. Right? It don't last too long. That's the juice. Tiff [00:38:37]: That's the juice. Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:38:38]: When you Tiff [00:38:38]: got the barbecue sauce in the fridge, how long that that last? You long. Tiff [00:38:42]: I have Impossible. See, that's the soul. Reginald Ferguson [00:38:43]: That's when you go Tiff [00:38:44]: to sleep. Years old. Tiff [00:38:45]: How long does it take to drip? That's the drip. Oh. You understand what I'm saying? Tiff [00:38:49]: Hinds, anticipation. Tiff [00:38:51]: That's a little bit different. It'd be like Brilliant. Reginald Ferguson [00:38:54]: A lot of people. You are making our producer search just cheesing. He will never let you go now. He will Impossibly ask when you coming back. I've never seen them like Tiff [00:39:03]: you wrong me. Whatever you wrong. Tiff [00:39:04]: I have to say, I totally get what you're saying because I love Tiff [00:39:18]: it. I have a very, very personal Tiff [00:39:21]: It's you. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:21]: It's like you Cam on the slopes now. That's all I'm saying. Tiff [00:39:25]: And pop. Shout out, Cam. Tiff [00:39:28]: Cam, like, fill me in. Tiff [00:39:30]: That's a real drip. But the reason why I actually wear pink is because, I've lost a lot of loved ones to cancer. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:36]: Mhmm. Tiff [00:39:37]: In my my family, a lot of friends. I, you know, like my grand my mom my my mom's mom was, my Grandmother. Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [00:39:44]: Your grandma. Tiff [00:39:45]: Yeah. She You do? She died of cancer when my mom was 15 years old. Tiff [00:39:49]: Wow. Tiff [00:39:49]: You know, I have I have uncles, aunts that I've lost. And recently, I lost one of my best friends to cancer. His name was Doogie. And, Tiff [00:39:58]: How old? Tiff [00:39:59]: He was, I believe twenty 2/23 Tiff [00:40:02]: years old. God. They're so young. Tiff [00:40:03]: He was very young. He always kept it a little bit purse like, personal. But, like, he told me he had it when he was younger, came back or whatever, and it really hurt me hard, and he died recently. And, when I go on the slopes, this, Like, I look up to the sky before I take everyone. Like, yo, this this is for my for my homies. You know what Tiff [00:40:20]: I'm saying? Your fashion represents your cause. Tiff [00:40:22]: It's a fact. So, like, a lot of people always ask me why you wear pink, And that's why it's for my family. You understand what I'm saying? For my friends. Tiff [00:40:28]: And I love it. It's the first thing I noticed right away. Tiff [00:40:30]: It's not just canceled, but, like, I lost a lot of friends to gun violence, a lot of best friends to gun violence, and, like, A lot of dumb stuff. You understand what I'm saying? And it's like, I just wanna I wanna create. I wanna I wanna show not just the youth, not just from Chill, from, like, my High School, but the people in my neighborhood that you don't have to, like, give yourself up to this life where you don't benefit from. You understand? Like, people wanna be in the streets for, like, this kinda, like, how how you say it? It's a reputation. Mhmm. Everybody wants a reputation. I don't want a reputation. I want a better life for everybody else. Tiff [00:41:02]: Oh my god. Tiff [00:41:03]: And I just wanna be an influence to everybody. Tiff [00:41:05]: You just gave me chills. Tiff [00:41:06]: So, like, there's so much more out there. Tiff [00:41:08]: So young. Even though Tiff [00:41:09]: even though we're in the city, like you said, like, we from the well, we're doing different things now. We shred. You know, you got your podcast going on. I got some other things going on. Like, we are the reason Why so many other people actually take that influence and go do try to try new things. Step like, we we the ones that we the reason why we help them get out of their comfort zone. Reginald Ferguson [00:41:28]: And pop. If you Tiff [00:41:29]: don't get out of your comfort zone, you're not gonna succeed in anything. Tiff [00:41:32]: And that's very true. Tiff [00:41:33]: Take no losses, you're not gonna succeed in nothing. You You understand what I'm saying? Yep. Like, you just you guys just asked me, like, what what what people thinking about you when you they thought that I couldn't I couldn't do this. They caught they thought I couldn't Do like a front side, three sixty or like a like a ball side, front side lip slide and all this. You understand what I'm saying? But I did it, and it's on my Instagram. Impop You know? Like, and then when it came the people that I got behind me helped me so much to achieve that. You know? That's when it comes to the brand New York City crew and the Chill Foundation. That's why I love them so much. Tiff [00:42:04]: You understand? Because now I'm I'm not in my full potential, but they help me realize the person that I am and how much much better I could be. Tiff [00:42:10]: Impop. Are you heading to the Olympics? Tiff [00:42:12]: Not really. Tiff [00:42:13]: I'm not I'm Tiff [00:42:13]: not I'm not a competitive snowboarder. Like I said, I I I feel like I'm here For this I'm here for the city, for my people, you know? The people don't who don't really get a lot of recognition. You understand what I'm saying? I'm here for them. Tiff [00:42:25]: Nice. Tiff [00:42:25]: And I'm here to teach people that we're here, that we exist. And we could do whatever we put our mindset to, but they don't realize that. I'm a help them realize that. Tiff [00:42:34]: Good job. Reginald Ferguson [00:42:35]: Well, you just you just hit on something, Jay. When we talk about this influence, you know, my direct question to you is, What are you doing literally along with Ave to bring people up? Tiff [00:42:47]: What I do literally along with Ave Is just I just do I just be me, to tell you the truth, because, like, I've I've had a lot of people tell me that I bring a lot of energy to wherever I come from. And, like, I've kind of, like, witnessed that because whenever I come around, I know a lot of people in my neighborhood, and I always scan. I'm always on my skateboard. Then everybody and everybody always sees my my my grandma, whatever. Be like, yo. I see what you're doing. And I just put them on. Like, yo. Tiff [00:43:12]: If you wanna do that, I'm gonna push Reginald Ferguson [00:43:14]: them on. That's my point. Tiff [00:43:14]: Like, yo. Like, yo. Listen. Like, My homies at Burnham, New York City, like, yo, we'll help you out. You need some gear, we'll help you out. Come out with me. And I've taken a I've taken a few of my homies Up to, to to Killington, Vermont. You know what? Hold on. Tiff [00:43:28]: I've taken a few I've taken a few miles. Tiff [00:43:29]: And it can be expensive snowboarding. That's amazing that bur Burton does. 2 years. Burton provides the gear Burton provides the gear for these, you know, for these individuals to do it, just to experience Mhmm. That. And I think I like that a lot. Tiff [00:43:43]: Yeah. So that's that's what I'll do. I'll just be like, yo, listen. If you wanna take it upon yourself, you wanna experience something different Other than big buildings and, like, skyscrapers and, like, bright lights and, like, negativity, holler at me. I'll take you I'll take you on that bus ride. I'll take you upstate. Tiff [00:44:00]: Nice. Tiff [00:44:01]: You don't even gotta snowboard. Just, like, take it in real quick. You understand what I'm saying? Reginald Ferguson [00:44:05]: I do. Tiff [00:44:05]: Just be Tiff [00:44:06]: in the moment. Yeah. And, like, you know, while I'm taking a run, go ahead. Go network or something. Because there's a lot of dudes out there that like music, and they do this, and they do that. You never know who you might run into. Just network. You know? Just, like, do something. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:23]: Right. Tiff [00:44:23]: Something different. Do something different. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:26]: Now the Burton crew, because, you know, I've been there. I've been in the store. Mhmm. Obviously, need to come back. The store has a diversity, but still is keeping let's keep it 100. It's predominantly white. Yeah. So related to my previous question, when a customer comes in Tiff [00:44:45]: Yep. Reginald Ferguson [00:44:46]: That doesn't look like you and I Mhmm. How do you think Oftentimes, they respond to you. Tiff [00:44:53]: How they respond to me? I wouldn't say how they respond, but how they fit. Don't know Reginald Ferguson [00:44:57]: how to do it. Yeah. How they be there? No. No one knows how Tiff [00:45:00]: to do it. Sketch, like, and, like, often, a lot of times, they ask me, like, do you snowboard? Uh-huh. Reginald Ferguson [00:45:05]: Yeah. Dang. That's my point. Tiff [00:45:06]: I definitely do snowboard. And the reason why I separate my the the way I separate myself is because of my knowledge. Tiff [00:45:14]: Because of your what? Tiff [00:45:14]: Because of my knowledge Okay. Of the product. You know? Like, I know from, like, ins and outs of the snowboard, jacket, pants, boots, bindings. Tiff [00:45:25]: You know you know the business. Tiff [00:45:26]: I know everything because you worked there. Because these they you know, before we opened the shop, we had, like, a lot of training even throughout the store. Like I said, Jimmy Wego, my boy George Rodenhauser, he's told me a lot of the things that I know. John Garnt, you know, Jonathan Gonzalez, Mario, Madera, Jason Durante, Jason Woods, like, all those dudes. They told me a lot. So that's how I separate myself. When they come up to me, they'd be like, oh, do you snowboard? Yeah. Snowboard. Tiff [00:45:51]: You wanna know how I know? Let me what what you looking for? Let me explain this product to you. Let me show you what you're missing because a lot of the products that we have is kind of invisible. They don't know what they're actually looking at. So I always have to break it down. Tiff [00:46:03]: When it Tiff [00:46:03]: comes to the the 2 layer, the 3 layer, or, like, the insulation or this or that, it doesn't even matter. You know, I'll break it down. They'd be like, wow. He does he really doesn't know what he knows what he talking about. You understand what I'm saying? So that's how I'd I'd like it's just knowledge. I just make sure I always have my knowledge with me. Reginald Ferguson [00:46:17]: Right. Tiff [00:46:18]: You know? And I just it's it's like a it's a treasure. It's a treasure Tiff [00:46:23]: So I guess you like working there, I guess. Tiff [00:46:24]: I love her. Tiff [00:46:25]: That's one of my questions I was gonna ask. I love her. How do you like working there? Tiff [00:46:28]: I love it. Reginald Ferguson [00:46:29]: Why do you rep Burton? Tiff [00:46:30]: Why do I write bread? Because they changed my life. When nobody believed in me, they did. Reginald Ferguson [00:46:35]: That's why. Tiff [00:46:37]: Oh. They picked me up off my feet. Like I said, if it wasn't for Berlin or the Chill Foundation, I'd probably be in jail or that. And yeah. Tiff [00:46:45]: Look, I'm glad that you're here. Tiff [00:46:47]: I'm glad that I'm here too. Tiff [00:46:48]: I got another question for you moving into, moving us back into the, A discussion of fashion. Tiff [00:46:54]: Mhmm. Tiff [00:46:55]: What are your thoughts on menswear today? General thoughts. Tiff [00:47:01]: My general thoughts on Men's Wear today is that it's definitely getting a little bit more cinema. I'd tell you that much. Everybody's going with, with the hip hop look nowadays, like, when it comes to, like, the Migos or Money Moneybagg Yo, Young Thug. You know, they're wearing a lot of, more slimmer clothes, you know, like, when it comes to the pants. I'm wearing some real slim pants on right now. Tiff [00:47:20]: What are you wearing? Tiff [00:47:22]: These are these are some Nasty Dressed jeans. Tiff [00:47:24]: Nasty dress. Is that the is that the brand? Tiff [00:47:26]: No. Yeah. It is a brand, but it's more of like a cheap, like, wholesale kinda like you know? I bought these years ago trying to be like the Migos. Tiff [00:47:34]: You understand? Reg Reg, Reginald Ferguson [00:47:36]: you know $10. That's what it got. Impac. Tiff [00:47:39]: You know I have to Reginald Ferguson [00:47:39]: ask questions. Now. Tiff [00:47:41]: Did you buy them with holes already in them? Reginald Ferguson [00:47:43]: Yeah. Tiff [00:47:43]: I did. Yep. Yeah. Tiff [00:47:44]: Here we go. Yes. Reginald Ferguson [00:47:45]: I did. I'm not saying anything. Tiff [00:47:48]: So another thing is another thing is Reginald Ferguson [00:47:50]: He's gonna wear them. Tiff [00:47:51]: A lot of another influence is when it comes to, Like, wait. What's I think it's not Balenciaga. I think it is Balenciaga with the, you know, with, like, the the stripes on the on on the thighs. It's weird, but Lot of lot of the the Tiff [00:48:06]: The whispering in the jeans. Is that Reginald Ferguson [00:48:07]: what you're Tiff [00:48:08]: talking about? Exactly. I think I think that's what it's called. That's where a lot of the influence is coming from. It's just from, like, fashion designers. And, like, The thing is is, like, when it comes to the transition of the clothing wear remember, like, back in the days, like Motley Crue skinny jeans. Tiff [00:48:22]: Yes. You Tiff [00:48:23]: You guys know Mollie Reginald Ferguson [00:48:23]: Kreme. Sure. Tiff [00:48:24]: Of course. Yeah. They used to wear jeans like this too. Back in the day, 2002, Soulja Boy, everybody's wearing them. Them jean shorts, baggy as hell. Impop. Right? On their feet, but now everything's just starting to slam down, you know? And everybody rocking Cuban links, you know? The diamonds on it. Everybody wanna be busting down and all that. Tiff [00:48:42]: That's just how it is. Tiff [00:48:43]: But I saw on your Instagram that you were also rocking a suit at one point too. Tiff [00:48:46]: Sorry. I love suits. Impop. Tiff [00:48:47]: Yeah. I was gonna ask you. So what are you are you more streetwear oriented or suit oriented? Or you're a little bit above? Feeling. Tiff [00:48:54]: It depends on where I'm going, how I'm feeling. You know, I wherever I'm going, I gotta come correct. So I I I I dress accordingly. Tiff [00:49:01]: Ah, okay. I didn't Tiff [00:49:02]: say that. Tiff [00:49:03]: So what item do you never leave the house without fashion Tiff [00:49:07]: wise. Asthma pump. Tiff [00:49:08]: Your what? Did you just say your asthma pump? Pump. I did that all day. I need that all day. Me too. Oh my god. Mine is in my purse right now. No lie. Tiff [00:49:18]: I would never leave home without. Tiff [00:49:19]: I never thought that as a fashion item, but okay. And pop. Alright. Well, I got 1 last question to wrap up this interview. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:26]: Oh, wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. If you got 1 last question, Kent, Tiff [00:49:29]: can I get you? I thought you were done. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:31]: No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Let me throw in mine, and you will be the last question. Tiff [00:49:36]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:37]: So Even though it's the warm weather, we're talking about winter stuff. We're talking about winter activities, obviously. So As a salesperson Yeah. What separates Burton from the other brands? Tiff [00:49:55]: That's a good question. Reginald Ferguson [00:49:55]: That is Tiff [00:49:56]: a very good question. Tiff [00:49:57]: Because I have to say I have a Helly Hansen jacket. Tiff [00:49:59]: Oh, okay. I mean That's that's fine. Tiff [00:50:02]: And pop. I purchased, like, 15 Reginald Ferguson [00:50:04]: years ago. You should see you should see his face, ladies and gentlemen. Tiff [00:50:08]: I know. He was Reginald Ferguson [00:50:09]: like, oh. Helly handover. Oh, you have that? Tiff [00:50:12]: And pop up. Looks like I gotta go down to, Green Street Tiff [00:50:16]: soon. Reginald Ferguson [00:50:17]: A fact. Tiff [00:50:17]: Come through whenever you need. I'll take care of you. Always. Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:50:20]: Well, the Tiff [00:50:20]: one thing that I would say that separates brand from any other company is a variety. Different cuts, different styles, different collections. You understand that we have, the regular mall logo, which is the regular resort clothes. You know, they all come with different cuts, different, designs and things like that. But then we have analog, Which is our streetwear snowboarding outerwear. You understand what I'm saying? A little bit more baggy, a little bit more old school. Tiff [00:50:43]: Would you are your pink pants Impop. Analog? Tiff [00:50:45]: Exactly. Okay. My pink pants, my jacket. Always write analog every year. Every year, you know, I gotta have a little new style, but, yeah, that's past Keep Tiff [00:50:52]: it pink. Tiff [00:50:52]: Yeah. But I'm Please. I think I'm gonna keep it pink for, like, a very long time. Tiff [00:50:55]: That's your statement. Tiff [00:50:56]: I think I'm gonna keep it pink for a very long time. And then it comes to, AK, which AK stands for Alaska, And pop. Okay. Which is Burton's, Backcountry outerwear. You know, when it comes to the to the cut of that and the designs, it's very much different because when you're in the Backcountry, You need a lot a lot of more mobility. Reginald Ferguson [00:51:12]: So when Tiff [00:51:12]: it comes to, like, the shoulders and arms, it's a little bit more extended. You know? Because when it comes to, like, the pros or, like, a lot of the heavy backcountry dudes, they just need a lot much more of that space. But they're just very good in keeping that cut slim, but just like, it's kinda, like, weird. But If you were to come to the store, I could explain it much more better. Tiff [00:51:29]: So so gone are the days of the the 1 piece, zip up jumper bunny suit. Right? Reginald Ferguson [00:51:35]: God. I Tiff [00:51:37]: totally have a picture. 90.70 is here. Reginald Ferguson [00:51:40]: He's like, what are you What you talking about? Tiff [00:51:43]: We still make a few pieces of those. Reginald Ferguson [00:51:45]: Do you feel Tiff [00:51:45]: We make, like, we make 1 for men, 1 for women. I was Reginald Ferguson [00:51:47]: like, okay. Just 1 mom. Oh my god. But you Tiff [00:51:49]: know what's crazy? They actually sell pretty well. Tiff [00:51:51]: I bet they do because they're easy. Easy on, easy off. Tiff [00:51:55]: They pretty they sell pretty well. Reginald Ferguson [00:51:56]: Now on the low, I hear that you guys are known for luggage. Yes. We are. Bring it down. Tiff [00:52:02]: Especially for New York Fashion Week. We always have yes. Of course. Tiff [00:52:05]: That's okay. I didn't come across that in my research. Educate me. Tiff [00:52:09]: I'm a educate you. When it comes to Burns' luggage, what we do is when it comes to the dimensions and things like that, we always go with protocol, airports and, like, airlines or whatever like that. So a lot of Tiff [00:52:19]: fashion designers and nobody's gonna buy it. Tiff [00:52:21]: Exactly. A lot of fashion designers, makeup artists, hair, like, you know, hair cosmetic pea I don't know how you call it. Reginald Ferguson [00:52:27]: No. They they they're very Tiff [00:52:28]: they're very big on our luggage because we do have a limited lifetime warranty. So when it comes to, like, any manufacturing defect, you can, like, either get it replaced or get it fixed depending on the situation. But also when it comes to, like, the storage in it, Like, in our actual luggage, you can fit a lot of stuff. And we actually Tiff [00:52:45]: Does it have pockets? They have a few outside. Pockets here. Tiff [00:52:48]: They have a few outside. It's not but, That kinda threw me a foot. I was gonna say. Tiff [00:52:53]: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to throw you. So good. You were just talking about how much storage there was in the luggage. Tiff [00:52:58]: Yeah. When it comes to you could fit a lot of stuff in. Oh, yeah. That's what I was gonna say. We actually offer a lot of different sizes Reginald Ferguson [00:53:03]: Okay. Tiff [00:53:03]: When it comes to, I would like this, like, you know, like the cargo, the the the sub, you know, what was it? A flight deck? You know? Just a lot of different size and everything. For all your needs. You know? So anybody out there who's actually curious, come highlight me. 69 Green Street, Impop. French snowboards. Janelle Ferreira's. I got you. Tiff [00:53:22]: 69 Green Street down in SoHo. Reginald Ferguson [00:53:25]: Jay, We've been talking about Chill Foundation. Mhmm. Isn't there a sale in which the proceeds go to the Chill Foundation? Tiff [00:53:34]: There actually is. So we actually have a few products in our store that actually go all proceeds go into the Chill Foundation. Tiff [00:53:40]: All proceeds? Tiff [00:53:41]: All proceeds. All Tiff [00:53:42]: That's after cost. Tiff [00:53:43]: Yeah. So, we sell a few bags, tote bags, things like that. We actually did a collaboration 1 year with Jeff Koons, the artist. Tiff [00:53:51]: Oh, yeah. Okay. Tiff [00:53:52]: We did a we did a snowboard, which actually cost about, like, 5 g's, and all those proceeds went Foundation suit. Tiff [00:53:59]: Meaning somebody paid $5,000 for a snowboard. Tiff [00:54:01]: All of them were gone. I'm like, yeah. Tiff [00:54:03]: Are you kidding me? Tiff [00:54:03]: And we actually hosted it in the New York City store. Jeff Cruz is there and all that with his son, his family. Reginald Ferguson [00:54:08]: Wow. He was pretty sick. Tiff [00:54:09]: Wow. So, like, that's what I like too is, like, they always take initiative when it comes to their foundation. A lot of things that they do Like, I don't know if, like, you know, like, I I actually I actually do know that I actually Jake probably just puts money into the just because he wants to. You understand what I'm saying? And a lot of people they have I guess they have, like, a lot of sponsors or whatever, but when it comes to the store itself, it's a lot Burton. Yeah. Tiff [00:54:32]: Yeah. Jake Burton. Carpenter. Tiff [00:54:33]: Carpenter. Exactly. They actually do take initiative in getting other people outside to just come in and actually, like, you know, get into it. Tiff [00:54:40]: And he's the owner. He's He, Tiff [00:54:42]: He's not the owner. He's actually the godfather. Tiff [00:54:44]: He's the godfather. Creator. Snowboarding. Tiff [00:54:46]: Snowboarding what it is today. He made it legal. He He actually like, if it wasn't for him, nobody would be doing what they're doing today. Tiff [00:54:52]: He made his 1st snowboard in his garage. Right? Tiff [00:54:55]: Yep. Yep. Tiff [00:54:56]: Back in 1977. Tiff [00:54:57]: Yep. 19 That's Tiff [00:54:58]: what I read. Tiff [00:54:58]: And pop. 1977 was actually when he got, the company started. Oh. Tiff [00:55:03]: So he was doing it prior. Tiff [00:55:05]: But he yeah. So when he was starting the company, he got a few kids, like, in high school to help him out, and he's, like, little barn, Vermont, producing snowboards. 1977 was a was when the years was when the company started. Tiff [00:55:16]: Oh. Tiff [00:55:17]: And after that, it was history, you know? Like I said, if it wasn't for him, who knows Where snowboarding will be today. Exactly. You made it legal. Reginald Ferguson [00:55:28]: The summer sale Mhmm. Doesn't that happen at your store? Tiff [00:55:31]: It's actually going down right now. I got a few homies up there. Reginald Ferguson [00:55:33]: I was gonna say, doesn't it happen Saturday and Sunday of this weekend? Mhmm. And all those proceeds go to Chill Foundation. I'm trying to give you some pub check. That's what I'm saying. Like, come on now. Like, you know, help me out here. Tiff [00:55:43]: But, no, yeah, it def it I believe it I believe it does. I've never been up to somersale personally myself. I don't really get into it because I actually have like, I can't get Reginald Ferguson [00:55:50]: into it. Also have it at your store? I know it starts you know, the main No. The original store is Vermont. No. Only in Vermont. Tiff [00:55:56]: That's what Reginald Ferguson [00:55:56]: I wanted to know. Yeah. Yeah. Only in Vermont. Branches. I thought I wasn't sure if the branches do it. So it's strictly Vermont. Tiff [00:56:01]: Only in Vermont. Reginald Ferguson [00:56:02]: Oh, okay. Tiff [00:56:03]: Yeah. Yeah. I'm not gonna say for sure if all proceeds go today. Like, I was never Well, no. Reginald Ferguson [00:56:06]: It does. I mean, I did my little Tiff [00:56:08]: research for sure. Reginald Ferguson [00:56:08]: So, yeah, Tiff [00:56:09]: I didn't know that. So, yo, look, he's teaching me something right now. That's for sure. But, I've actually I wanted to participate in that, but I couldn't. I have a son, so I can't be, like, too far away for too long. But, yeah. It's only in Vermont. And, basically, they just have, like, a lot of rare stuff, do stuff that they have for sale. Tiff [00:56:25]: And, like, a lot of people go there and just buy some, like, some kit. You know, as you could find a lot of cool stuff up there. Tiff [00:56:31]: You could find a lot of cool Reginald Ferguson [00:56:32]: stuff everywhere. New York. Tiff [00:56:34]: Well, go to go to Vermont, Reg. Reginald Ferguson [00:56:36]: You love Tiff [00:56:37]: it. It's beautiful. Time. So I have 1 1 last question to, finish up the interview. I always throw this question out at all of our our interviewees. Okay. And pop. What does always be fly mean to you? Tiff [00:56:51]: Always be fly. What does that mean to me? Always be you. Express yourself the way that you wanna be, or even when it comes to fashion Or whatever. Just, just be yourself, man. That's the most that's the purity of life. That's the purity of everything. That's the best of you when you could just be yourself. Tiff [00:57:07]: Nice. Tiff [00:57:07]: You know? Do what you wanna do. I don't care about what nobody else say. Nobody will nobody would else think. It don't matter. But you dang. Get out there, be out there, and send it. Reginald Ferguson [00:57:18]: That's all good. Tiff [00:57:19]: That is amazing. Thank you so much. Tiff [00:57:20]: No. Thank you guys Tiff [00:57:21]: so much. You coming. Appreciate your time. Tiff [00:57:23]: Of course. Tiff [00:57:24]: And pop. And, yeah. And your presence, your personality, and everything you're about. You're amazing. Reginald Ferguson [00:57:30]: Thank you. Now we know what you do. And pop. Tiff [00:57:35]: Alright. So, we're gonna segue into our, next segment of the show. Reginald Ferguson [00:57:40]: I must have it. I must have it. Tiff [00:57:52]: Impaculate. Alright now. Rich. Yes. So you always bring this to the table. So tell me, And pop. What is your Reginald Ferguson [00:58:01]: I must have it item today? I must have a 2 on 1 double breasted jacket. Tiff [00:58:05]: A what? Reginald Ferguson [00:58:07]: A 2 on 1 double breasted jacket. Ladies and gentlemen, our guest is still here. His eyes are like sauces. My cohost is here. She has no idea what I'm saying, And my producer just looked the other way. He was like, just let him say his fashion stuff. Tiff [00:58:21]: So a 2 on 1 I I know what a double rest jacket is. And pop. But when you talk about 2 on 1, you know, you need to help me Reginald Ferguson [00:58:29]: out a little bit. I'm talking about the button Tiff [00:58:31]: stance, Tiff. The okay. What is And pop. Button stance. Reginald Ferguson [00:58:34]: Button stance is and, of course, I have a single breasted suit on today, single breasted jacket. But the point is, How many buttons do you have and how many buttons can be used? Tiff [00:58:44]: Well, how many buttons do you need? Reginald Ferguson [00:58:46]: Well, I mean, you could go from 2 buttons To 8 buttons in terms of representation of your left chest and your right chest. Tiff [00:58:55]: Okay. But then So it's the total number of buttons on the front of your jacket. Reginald Ferguson [00:58:58]: Yes. Tiff [00:58:58]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:58:59]: And then the 2nd number is how many you're using to close the jacket. Tiff [00:59:05]: Okay. So a 2 2 on 1. So the 2 on 1 is the lightest. Oh, okay. Reginald Ferguson [00:59:11]: Oh, yeah. Tiff [00:59:13]: And apparently, it's, atypical in the double breasted, suit game. Reginald Ferguson [00:59:18]: That's right. Just like your boy. Tiff [00:59:22]: Yeah. A little atypical reg pulling on the atypical needs. Reginald Ferguson [00:59:26]: Yeah. I freaking love this. It's to well, I'll tell you why. First of all, because it's totally retro. That's just the first thing about it. The Well, Tiff [00:59:35]: it's Formal too. I mean, I think I'm thinking about tuxedos with the shawl collar have that one that the 2 buttons, 1 button. That's Reginald Ferguson [00:59:42]: Well Very formal. Yeah. But I'm not talking about from a tuck standpoint. I'm just talking about a normal I got a sport jacket on. I got pants on. Zip zap. Okay. So I first saw it back in the day when I was a little kid in the seventies With Bobby Darren. Reginald Ferguson [00:59:59]: Bobby Darren had he was on the Flip Wilson show. I actually saw her recently. I don't remember it really back in the day, though. That is my era. And it was Flip Wilson, Bobby Darin, maybe someone else, and they were singing at the end, And pop. Because sometimes they do that on the flip Wilson show. Young buck, you could just check that on YouTube. And Tiff [01:00:18]: You should check it out. It's funny. Reginald Ferguson [01:00:20]: And Bobby Darin just had this slick ass jacket. And I was just like, whoop. Like, what? How did oh, That's what they did back then? Like, you know, I was too little to remember that. So my grandfather was a big dude, so he definitely didn't double breast. He was a single breasted guy. He was broad. So I just remember that. Tiff [01:00:40]: So you big dude shouldn't do double breasted suits? It's not slimming. Is that what you're trying to say? Reginald Ferguson [01:00:47]: Everything is about your shape. Right? Literally, it is. Right? So I'm a slim cat. Jay's a slim cat. He's slimmer than me, obviously. I was as slim as that at his age. So I think no matter who you are, when you come to me as a customer, it's about you looking your best. So that means I have to put you in the best position for you to look fly. Reginald Ferguson [01:01:09]: To me, it's no different than what Jay was talking about when he you know, when a customer comes into Burton. He was very distinct about the the the 3 or 4 different styles and cuts. Right? Right. So when he's sizing up a customer, I know whether it was him, Jay Woods, that whole crew. I only know a few of them by name, obviously. Salesmen who know what he or she are doing, That's what they're doing. They're sizing them up. They're qualifying the customer, and then they're putting them to the appropriate gear. Tiff [01:01:36]: Okay. Reginald Ferguson [01:01:37]: And that's exactly what I have to do. So to answer your question directly Tiff [01:01:41]: You have to see the person. Reginald Ferguson [01:01:43]: Yes. As a general rule, No. I'd probably keep a big guy in a in a single breasted jacket. But again Tiff [01:01:50]: I would too. Reginald Ferguson [01:01:51]: You definitely have to do a case by case. Tiff [01:01:52]: You have buttons going straight down in a line, that's always gonna be slimming. When you broaden 2 rows of buttons, you're sort of broadening the canvas, and the that canvas is the, midsection. Reginald Ferguson [01:02:03]: Yeah. But but Papa, let's be clear. Tiff [01:02:04]: Gentlemen with a large midsection don't need that canvas broadened. Reginald Ferguson [01:02:07]: That's my right. Right. That's my point. Right. That's that's my point. So when I saw that jacket, Steez, I was just like because I have literally never seen that on anyone from a contemporary standpoint. Yeah. For real. Reginald Ferguson [01:02:21]: Wow. Like, I haven't. I just haven't. I know people ain't out there, but I'm always checking people out. Tiff [01:02:26]: Just like I do. I don't think I Right. Reginald Ferguson [01:02:27]: That's my point. I was gonna say you you know? And it'll be great. Like, when you Google that, we'll make sure you Google it. Tiff [01:02:32]: I will. Reginald Ferguson [01:02:33]: Oh, of course. Oh. Because Tiff, fashion geek number 2 is the researcher. Tiff [01:02:38]: I like that. Yeah. Reginald Ferguson [01:02:39]: Ta dao. It it's just really it's a it's a very distinct Tiff [01:02:42]: rule. Pretty fly, though. Reginald Ferguson [01:02:44]: I know. That's why I picked it, yo. That's what I'm saying. Imposter. Saying. Tiff [01:02:47]: Just to tell everybody what we're looking at. You know, when saying. When Reg told me what his, I must have it item was, I And pop. I, of course, had to research because I can never be, not in the know, even though I pretend to be. I found a nice article that everyone needs to Check out. It's called 5 nontraditional double breasted suits and how to find them. It's on Bloomberg. Bloomberg.comnews articles. Tiff [01:03:10]: Check it out. It has got not only the 2 on 1 or the 2 by 1. Is it 2 on 1? That's how you how you Reginald Ferguson [01:03:16]: say it? Yeah. I mean, however And that's a 2 on 1. Tiff [01:03:19]: And there's the 4 by 1, and the 4 by 2, and the 6 by 3, and the 8 by 3. Who knew there are so many different kinds of double breasted jackets? Reginald Ferguson [01:03:29]: What about the 6 what about the 6 by 2? I mean, that's what I normally do. Tiff [01:03:32]: The 6 by 2 Yeah. I think I I just said And pop. 6 by Reginald Ferguson [01:03:35]: 2, didn't I? No. I heard you Tiff [01:03:36]: say 6 by 2. Oh, okay. Well, the 6 by 3, they say, is probably the most, you know, Impa. Mod from the 19 sixties because, you know, it's 3 buttons that are buttoned, 6 buttons total. Reginald Ferguson [01:03:49]: Yeah. I'm like, whoo. Tiff [01:03:50]: Can I and what's funny about this Impop? 2 on 1. What this you. What this article says about the 2 on 1. So the the title is nontraditional. So these are nontraditional. And pop. It says, you know, this this, style earns applause across the board, especially when the jacket takes a shawl lapel. On a city suit, though, it's the formal tailoring equivalent of a motorcycle jacket and best left to resolute rebels. Tiff [01:04:16]: Impop. So are you a rebel, Rich? Are you a resolute rebel? Reginald Ferguson [01:04:20]: I don't know about that, but I'm just a fly ass. So Tiff [01:04:26]: And pop. Reginald Ferguson [01:04:27]: And that's what that's what that's what I want it. Tiff [01:04:29]: So, like I said, I just had the ending curse word, not with the beeps, because, And pop. Because Reginald Ferguson [01:04:34]: you know I could. Yes. I do. But I just, yeah. I like I said, I just had this image from the And pop. I've it just never left me. I wouldn't do it with a Sean necessarily. I would do it with a peak lapel. Tiff [01:04:46]: And that's what I'm looking at right now. Reginald Ferguson [01:04:47]: Yeah. Tiff [01:04:47]: And the one I'm actually looking at just so that everyone has a price point, because, you know, we gotta talk about price point, because we're talking about everyday menswear fashion. Very important. And pop. And sometimes when you talk about everyday menswear fashion, price points are kind of important. Tiff [01:05:00]: Yeah. Tiff [01:05:00]: And this one I'm looking at is, help me if I'm pronouncing it wrong. And pop. Ermin Gildo Zegna Couture. Reginald Ferguson [01:05:08]: Zegna Couture. Tiff [01:05:08]: Zegna Couture. At $4,995. Reginald Ferguson [01:05:13]: Pops. A mere bag of shells. Tiff [01:05:15]: Yeah. You Tiff [01:05:16]: know what I could do with that Tiff [01:05:17]: right now? That's just the jacket. The trousers come in at a sweet $2,100. Reginald Ferguson [01:05:23]: And. A mere bag of shells. Tiff [01:05:25]: So, this would be the high end of the 2 on 1. I'm sure we could find something that's a little bit more affordable for, you know, whoever comes Impromptu. Right? Reginald Ferguson [01:05:34]: I think I'll get someone to make it for me, obviously. Hopefully, by that time, I have my sponsorship. Tiff [01:05:38]: Yes. I hope you don't. Tiff [01:05:40]: We're always looking for that. Tiff [01:05:41]: Appreciate that. You definitely welcome. Reginald Ferguson [01:05:43]: I hope so. Tiff [01:05:44]: Alright. So there we have it with our I must have it. Yeah. And we're gonna move into the last segment of our podcast. Reginald Ferguson [01:05:52]: Fashion word of the day. Fashion word of the day. Tiff [01:06:05]: So this is where, we bring a word that, pertains to fashion, menswear fashion. And we try to challenge each other. This time, we we only brought, And pop. One word. Reg brought me a word because I got so lost in my research on every other part of this podcast that I'm like, oh my god. I forgot a word. So, Reg. Impop. Tiff [01:06:25]: So, give me the word to, either spell well, I gotta Spell it. Define it. Define it. And Reginald Ferguson [01:06:33]: Use it in a sentence. Tiff [01:06:37]: Impop. He's the man of many voices, I Reginald Ferguson [01:06:40]: tell you. School. Tiff [01:06:41]: I like it. Reginald Ferguson [01:06:42]: You ready? Tiff [01:06:42]: Challenge me. Reginald Ferguson [01:06:44]: Collarstays. Oh, Collarstays. Tiff [01:06:46]: Oh, Collarstays. Reginald Ferguson [01:06:48]: Oh, my god. Tiff [01:06:48]: I love it. Collarstays, two words, c o l l a r. Impop. Second word, s t a y Reginald Ferguson [01:06:55]: s. Yes. Tiff [01:06:57]: College states. I love them. They're actually gonna be featured on one of my accessorized to maximize segments in the future. Okay. So I spelled it collar stays. The definition basically are plastic or metal pieces that are placed in the point of collars on a dress shirt to keep it nice and pointy and sharp. Reginald Ferguson [01:07:17]: Well, that was easy. Tiff [01:07:18]: And that's my sentence. Reginald Ferguson [01:07:20]: That was oh, okay. Well, that ends that, Imposs Especially since you, forgot to bring a word. Tiff [01:07:27]: I'll can we just talk about collar stays for a minute? I love them. I love them. I love them. And I I gotta say, And pop. A lot of times men take the collar stays out. No. And that is a no no. Reginald Ferguson [01:07:39]: That's a fashion fool. Tiff [01:07:40]: Right. That's a fashion fool. I mean, if you've got a collar stay in your shirt, keep it in. If you lose it, if it's laundering, you know, always have a couple of extra collar stays on hand put back in there because a limp collar point is Whack. That wasn't what I was gonna say. But, And pop. Yeah. It's wack. Tiff [01:07:59]: So there we have it. Reginald Ferguson [01:08:01]: You did quite well. I guess, hopefully, maybe, next time you'll have your word for me. Tiff [01:08:05]: I win. I win. I will. Reginald Ferguson [01:08:08]: Well, that's a wrap. Thank you so much for listening. We hope you had fun and down for another one. Please tell your friends about us. Special shout out goes to our producer search and everyone down with the NYFG. First of all, I wanna give a big shout out to our guest who is still here. Tiff [01:08:22]: Yes. He is. Tiff [01:08:23]: Ferderas. You already know what it is. Reginald Ferguson [01:08:25]: Jay, what is your insta? Tiff [01:08:27]: My Insta is I am Pluto with 2 i's. So it's I I a m p l u t o. I am Pluto. Perfect. Reginald Ferguson [01:08:34]: And you are repping also on Insta, Burton NYC. Tiff [01:08:37]: Burn New York City all day, baby. Tiff [01:08:40]: Alright. Nice. Very nice. And if you if you, Have anything that you want us to talk about or you have a suggestion for a fashion word or, an a must have it item. Always feel feed free to reach out, to our Instagram, of course. But also you can email us at? Reginald Ferguson [01:08:59]: Tiff [01:09:02]: Yes. Please talk to us. Come on. We wanna hear what you have to say. Let us know you're listening. Reginald Ferguson [01:09:08]: Exactly. And you need that consultation. Believe me. You need help. Tiff [01:09:12]: Yes. And that's what Reg is here for. Reginald Ferguson [01:09:15]: So I'm Reg. Tiff [01:09:16]: And I'm Tiff. Reginald Ferguson [01:09:17]: See you next time. And remember, always be fly.
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